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NewEnglands_KyoSa
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 14 Jan 2008
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Location: New England
Styles: Moo Duk Kwan Tang Soo Do , Chinese Kempo
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my test was about two-two and a half hours. first came line drills, then about twenty open handed and weapon forms. then came self defense, then self defesne against a knife, then regular one steps, then came pyung ahn one steps, then fighting, then stamina drills, the board breaking, the terminology/history/philosophy grading. it was BRUTAL!
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Zanshin
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Styles: Wado Ryu Karate, Daito Ryu Aiki-Jujutsu, Ono-Ha Itto-Ryu Kenjutsu
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| NewEnglands_KyoSa wrote: |
| my test was about two-two and a half hours. first came line drills, then about twenty open handed and weapon forms. then came self defense, then self defesne against a knife, then regular one steps, then came pyung ahn one steps, then fighting, then stamina drills, the board breaking, the terminology/history/philosophy grading. it was BRUTAL! |
Hi NewEnglands_KyoSa,
What are "pyung ahn one steps"? Are they a type of pre-arranged sparing, and if so how were they different to your regular one steps?
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NewEnglands_KyoSa
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 14 Jan 2008
Posts: 907
Location: New England
Styles: Moo Duk Kwan Tang Soo Do , Chinese Kempo
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Hi Zanshin,
pyung ahn one steps are derived from our five Pyung Ahn Forms(or hyungs). they are actually pieces of the form put together in the form of one steps that simulate a piece of the fight thats going on in the form. the attacker and defender are both active, this means, the attacker does not just throw a face punch. and we have nine of them(18 parts). so yes i supposed you could call it pre arranged sparring but, it comes from those five forms.
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 11994
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo,Hapkido, SCA Combat, and I research Medieval Combat
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:32 am Post subject: |
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| NewEnglands_KyoSa wrote: |
Hi Zanshin,
pyung ahn one steps are derived from our five Pyung Ahn Forms(or hyungs). they are actually pieces of the form put together in the form of one steps that simulate a piece of the fight thats going on in the form. the attacker and defender are both active, this means, the attacker does not just throw a face punch. and we have nine of them(18 parts). so yes i supposed you could call it pre arranged sparring but, it comes from those five forms. |
Ah, that's kind of cool. Like bunkai almost, right?
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NewEnglands_KyoSa
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 14 Jan 2008
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Location: New England
Styles: Moo Duk Kwan Tang Soo Do , Chinese Kempo
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| NewEnglands_KyoSa wrote: |
Hi Zanshin,
pyung ahn one steps are derived from our five Pyung Ahn Forms(or hyungs). they are actually pieces of the form put together in the form of one steps that simulate a piece of the fight thats going on in the form. the attacker and defender are both active, this means, the attacker does not just throw a face punch. and we have nine of them(18 parts). so yes i supposed you could call it pre arranged sparring but, it comes from those five forms. |
Ah, that's kind of cool. Like bunkai almost, right? |
yes, just like bunkai except its not the whole form, its just a piece.
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Zanshin
Member of the Month
Joined: 26 Feb 2007
Posts: 401
Styles: Wado Ryu Karate, Daito Ryu Aiki-Jujutsu, Ono-Ha Itto-Ryu Kenjutsu
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| NewEnglands_KyoSa wrote: |
| bushido_man96 wrote: |
| NewEnglands_KyoSa wrote: |
Hi Zanshin,
pyung ahn one steps are derived from our five Pyung Ahn Forms(or hyungs). they are actually pieces of the form put together in the form of one steps that simulate a piece of the fight thats going on in the form. the attacker and defender are both active, this means, the attacker does not just throw a face punch. and we have nine of them(18 parts). so yes i supposed you could call it pre arranged sparring but, it comes from those five forms. |
Ah, that's kind of cool. Like bunkai almost, right? |
yes, just like bunkai except its not the whole form, its just a piece. |
Thanks guys,
Question then, do you take the techniques found in the Pyung Ahns and apply them in any other way outside of the "one steps".
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NewEnglands_KyoSa
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 14 Jan 2008
Posts: 907
Location: New England
Styles: Moo Duk Kwan Tang Soo Do , Chinese Kempo
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Zanshin wrote: |
| NewEnglands_KyoSa wrote: |
| bushido_man96 wrote: |
| NewEnglands_KyoSa wrote: |
Hi Zanshin,
pyung ahn one steps are derived from our five Pyung Ahn Forms(or hyungs). they are actually pieces of the form put together in the form of one steps that simulate a piece of the fight thats going on in the form. the attacker and defender are both active, this means, the attacker does not just throw a face punch. and we have nine of them(18 parts). so yes i supposed you could call it pre arranged sparring but, it comes from those five forms. |
Ah, that's kind of cool. Like bunkai almost, right? |
yes, just like bunkai except its not the whole form, its just a piece. |
Thanks guys,
Question then, do you take the techniques found in the Pyung Ahns and apply them in any other way outside of the "one steps". |
uhm yes and no. you find that you might use some of the techniques when doing knife self defense, or hand to hand self defense, or sword self defense, only because you make these up on your own. so are they in anything else in the textbook? not that i can think of. but you might use them in self defense applications.
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Zanshin
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| Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| NewEnglands_KyoSa wrote: |
| Zanshin wrote: |
| NewEnglands_KyoSa wrote: |
| bushido_man96 wrote: |
| NewEnglands_KyoSa wrote: |
Hi Zanshin,
pyung ahn one steps are derived from our five Pyung Ahn Forms(or hyungs). they are actually pieces of the form put together in the form of one steps that simulate a piece of the fight thats going on in the form. the attacker and defender are both active, this means, the attacker does not just throw a face punch. and we have nine of them(18 parts). so yes i supposed you could call it pre arranged sparring but, it comes from those five forms. |
Ah, that's kind of cool. Like bunkai almost, right? |
yes, just like bunkai except its not the whole form, its just a piece. |
Thanks guys,
Question then, do you take the techniques found in the Pyung Ahns and apply them in any other way outside of the "one steps". |
uhm yes and no. you find that you might use some of the techniques when doing knife self defense, or hand to hand self defense, or sword self defense, only because you make these up on your own. so are they in anything else in the textbook? not that i can think of. but you might use them in self defense applications. |
I see thanks for explaining.
It sounds very similar to something we have in Wado called "Ohyo" Kumite. They are a set of paired techniques that are designed for the student to learn the principles behind the techniques found in Kata.
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"saya no uchi de katsu" - Victory in the scabbbard of the sword. (One must obtain victory while the sword is undrawn).
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NewEnglands_KyoSa
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 14 Jan 2008
Posts: 907
Location: New England
Styles: Moo Duk Kwan Tang Soo Do , Chinese Kempo
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| Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Zanshin wrote: |
| NewEnglands_KyoSa wrote: |
| Zanshin wrote: |
| NewEnglands_KyoSa wrote: |
| bushido_man96 wrote: |
| NewEnglands_KyoSa wrote: |
Hi Zanshin,
pyung ahn one steps are derived from our five Pyung Ahn Forms(or hyungs). they are actually pieces of the form put together in the form of one steps that simulate a piece of the fight thats going on in the form. the attacker and defender are both active, this means, the attacker does not just throw a face punch. and we have nine of them(18 parts). so yes i supposed you could call it pre arranged sparring but, it comes from those five forms. |
Ah, that's kind of cool. Like bunkai almost, right? |
yes, just like bunkai except its not the whole form, its just a piece. |
Thanks guys,
Question then, do you take the techniques found in the Pyung Ahns and apply them in any other way outside of the "one steps". |
uhm yes and no. you find that you might use some of the techniques when doing knife self defense, or hand to hand self defense, or sword self defense, only because you make these up on your own. so are they in anything else in the textbook? not that i can think of. but you might use them in self defense applications. |
I see thanks for explaining.
It sounds very similar to something we have in Wado called "Ohyo" Kumite. They are a set of paired techniques that are designed for the student to learn the principles behind the techniques found in Kata. |
yea those sound like a mirror image of ours.
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