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bushido_man96
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:46 am Post subject: Arnis/Escrima |
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I was reading an interesting article on Arnis/Escrima (can't remember which was stated), and the article discussed a series of exchanges that was done as a two-man drill. What was the most interesting (to me) about the article was how the drill was transitioned from being done with sticks, and then with knives, and then with empty hands. The movements, for all intent and purposes, was the same, and the translations flowed very well.
Anyways, I was kind of caught up in looking them over, and really checking them out, and I thought that it just made a lot of sense for the style to be inclusive like that. Then, I noticed while reading one of my new Medieval fighting manuals, that the same type of equal transitioning took place in many places of the various weapons fighting, especially involving the guards when using different weapons. This idea just makes the art simpler to learn and convert into being useful, I think.
Is this an overlying factor when it comes to most Escrima/Arnis styles? I am just curious. The Phillipino arts have held my interest for many years, and anything that anyone can share will be thuroughly enjoyed by me! _________________ Success is where preparation meets opportunity.
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KNOCKuOUT
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure that that principle pertains mostly to the escrima style. Although some would say that kali/escrima/arnis are all the same, I've been told there are variations in each. Escrima is a fighting system that teaches with weapons and transitions the movements over to the empty hands. I think arnis is more strictly to the flow of stick fighting. But again, I'm not positive. |
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bushido_man96
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:56 am Post subject: |
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I wondered about the differences between them, or if they were just maybe a regional thing, with some carryover for each. I may have to look into it.
There is an Encylopedia of Phillipine Martial Arts, or something like that, around. I may have to purchase a copy of it. Maybe that will clear things up. _________________ Success is where preparation meets opportunity.
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Rainbow_Warrior
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Styles: Now : MMA/luta livre/Thai , before :Kung fu,kick boxing , boxing, amateur wrestling
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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Hi...I found a filipino arts school 10 blocks from my house. I was interested in cold weapong combat , speacially western and medieval.... But I do not have a school like arma here...
The school´s website talks about using knives , sticks , daggers , swords , and a long list. of melee weapons. They also say that teach military combat with knife/bayonet in special courses...
The core of the teachings is sparring with wooden or rubber knives for the begginers and then use the real thing when you are advanced....They also have armors to play full power.
It is not very expensive , but I could just 1 time a week cuz i have no time ( on saturday afternoon).
Will the weapon training affect my mma training?
This school...also uses some grapling when fightin with weapons... specially jujutsu. _________________ ´´ The evil may win a round , but not the fight ´´ |
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bushido_man96
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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I would say do it, but that is just me. I don't think it would affect your other training that much. The environments will help you keep things straight, I think. _________________ Success is where preparation meets opportunity.
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KNOCKuOUT
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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| So I just bought my first book arnis! I read the whole thing in 2 days. It turns out arnis practitioners first learn to fight with the stick, then knives, then empty hands. The principle here is that in a real life self defense situation an attacker is likely to have a weapon. Also, the same movements that are used for the stick, translate to the knife, and even the empty hand techniques. So exectly what Bushido said is true. It is common for arnis/kali/escrima. Anyway, I can't wait to buy another book on arnis. We do alot of philipino weaponry at my school, but not till the advanced belts, so I figure I'l read up on whatever I can get my hands on to know some background and base material for the future. |
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bushido_man96
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:02 am Post subject: |
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What was the title, KNOCKuOUT? _________________ Success is where preparation meets opportunity.
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KNOCKuOUT
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Arnis Self-Defense:Stick, Blade, and Empty-Hand Combat Techniques of the Philipines by Jose Paman. It's really good for background on the art, and the very basics of the art itself. |
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bushido_man96
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:32 am Post subject: |
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Cool, thanks. I currently only have one book on Arnis/Escrima, and I am looking to expand my library in that area. _________________ Success is where preparation meets opportunity.
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KNOCKuOUT
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| What's the name of the book you have? |
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