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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 12:23 pm    Post subject: Ba Qua/ Pa Qua Reply with quote

I did a search on the web for any sites, but came up with very little.

I was wondering:

1) How effective is the art, if taught correctly?

2) What does it maily consist of, ie. striking, grappling, etc?

3) Is it more of a long distance or in close fighting style?

If anyone can answer these, I would be very greatful.

Thanks---Joshua
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) Extremely.
2) Upright grappling strikes.
3) When taught/done right? Very close.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the quick reply, Jerry. It was much appreciated.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are most welcome... I'm suprised there were not follow-up questions
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey JerryLove isn't that the system of fighting used by Gengus Kahn? I would think it would be a pretty brutal system.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know what Gengis used; but since Pagua Chang seems to only be around 200 years old, we can assume that was not it.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There were more questions, I just had to mull them over.

I have heard that it is a very fluid and circular system of fighting and was wondering if it were true.

Also, is there any weapons training?

In your opinion, does it over emphasize striking over kicking?

I am currently studying Budo Taijutsu and was wondering if it would be detrimental to my training if I started taking both? While i enjoy Budo Taijutsu, I have always enjoyed the Chinese systems a great deal more.

Thank you---Joshua
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Yes Pagua is both crcular and fluid (It's best known for its circles).
2. Yes, there are. I'm only familiar with the large Pagua sword as a trad. weapon. I do however watching it with a knife.
3. No, I don't think there is an over emphasis. There is very little of what would be traditionally called "kicking" in Pagua. The feet are heavily used to disrupt and setup knees.

I don't know Budo taijutsu, and so cannot render a valid opinion on the matter. I can tell you that Paguaa is probibly the most complex and difficult to master the the three big Neijia arts; as such, I would not generaly consider it as a second-study art until you were rather advanced as an artist in general.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I have decided to take it for a while to see if I really like it. From what I gathered at the first class last night, I enjoyed it a great deal.

Here is the link to the dojo if anyone was curious.

http://liveoak72.tripod.com/

Thanks for the info and advice---Joshua
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been curoius, does anyone know of any online tutorials or demos of Ba Qua? I have been looking and have not really found much.

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