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Radok
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 9:32 pm    Post subject: Best art Reply with quote

I know a million people are going to tell me this was a bad subject to post, but if a person had ten years to train for a fight with no weapons/mutiple attackers, what woul you say would be the most effective art? All suggestions are appritiated.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2002 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm......... Now you know that EVERYONE is going to disagree on this one. Are you suggesting more of a NHB UFC fight? With no weapons and muitliple attackers.

Well, I like Aikido because it is not strength related, and you have the ablility to take on much larger, fitter and stronger opponents. Although, the other arts that I think would be good in a real life situation would be Bujinkan Taijutsu, Wing Chun Kung Fu, BJJ and Mauy Thai also some of the more traditional Okinawan Karate styles.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2002 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah it also depends on what types of rules there are. can you break arms legs, bite an ear.

If you could bite i take some leasons from Iron Mike.

Seriously If its all out combat it probally be good to be physically fit and know a verity of martial arts.

Some type of kickboxing for stand up.
Ju juitsu for the ground game.
American boxing to get the hand techniques with wing chun to get in close trapping.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2002 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I Would have to put my vote on JKD.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2002 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

10 years of hard work is all that matters regardless of the style. Given 10 years to prepare for a fight any style would be acceptable, with the understanding that the goal of the training was to win/survive the fight.

IMHO it is always the artist that makes the difference not the art. Style is not the answer - dedication, hard work and a good sifu/sensei/teacher is the answer.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2002 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Best Art is what you make of it
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Kensai
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2002 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree Pacific.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2002 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well you know, Okinawan Shorin-Ryu would probably be as good as any. Particularly with multiple attackers, as after 10 years you would have a lot of ways to deal very quickly with each opponent.

Although personally I might suggest goju-ryu, as it seems to have a lot more close in "streetfighting" stuff like elbows, knees, leg blocks. Also attacks from multiple angles like various backhand and hammer fists, back kicks, etc.

I've noticed that many kata moves are applicable to attacks coming from different angles, like people jumping in from the side or behind. (Often an obvious interpretation, too, not a "hidden" move.)

When you throw in the multiple attackers curve-ball, the "hallowed partnership" of Muay Thai/BJJ suddenly has some weaknesses exposed. (i.e. neither of these styles train for that eventuality in any way)
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diamondick
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2002 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it is true that it is the fighter not the art.
My answer is,
imagine two or three identical people trained under the same exact
circumstances for ten years in different styles, this is what i think the original poster meant, which would be superior.
My answer is JKD unlimited as it is not a closed form, JKD unlimited permits the individual
to "steal" from every style what is more effective for him.
We must use easy and effective techniques that will work in most adverse circumstances.
The real power lies not in knowing many techniques but in having the ability to apply them.
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BlueDragon1981
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2002 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Pacific also. Its how you study and how you prepare your mind.

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