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robodjs
Yellow Belt

Joined: 07 Apr 2003
Posts: 36
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 12:58 pm Post subject: Brazilian Jujitsu vs. other martial arts |
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| So what so you know about brazilian jujitsu, and how does it compare to other martial arts? |
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TJS
Black Belt

Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Posts: 1843
Styles: boxing, Thai boxing, BJJ,
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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| pretty broad question.. |
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Treebranch
Black Belt

Joined: 21 Mar 2003
Posts: 2264
Location: Glendale, California USA
Styles: Budo Taijutsu, Submission Grappling, Machado Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Kung Fu San Soo, Lima Lama, Taekwondo
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 1:16 am Post subject: |
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| BJJ is great, but it is not a complete art. It's basically a fairly modern Martial Art, a grappling art. |
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SevenStar
Black Belt

Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Posts: 2631
Location: TN
Styles: bjj, judo, shuai chiao, muay thai
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 6:28 am Post subject: |
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| No one art is truly complete... Any one that claims to be will still be lacking because you won't be able to spend adequate time on EVERYTHING... |
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SevenStar
Black Belt

Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Posts: 2631
Location: TN
Styles: bjj, judo, shuai chiao, muay thai
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 6:29 am Post subject: |
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| As for the question, is there anything in particular you want to know? |
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Sepultura
Orange Belt


Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Posts: 126
Styles: kyokushin karate,wushu
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 6:42 am Post subject: |
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| BJJ is a gr8 combat art but not complete.it may be very effective in some cases and not that effective in other. |
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Treebranch
Black Belt

Joined: 21 Mar 2003
Posts: 2264
Location: Glendale, California USA
Styles: Budo Taijutsu, Submission Grappling, Machado Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Kung Fu San Soo, Lima Lama, Taekwondo
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 8:52 am Post subject: |
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| Some Arts are more complete than others, this is a fact. You have to ask yourself why was this style created. Was it created for Combat? Was it created for Competition? Was it a Combat Style that became a Sport because of disuse? The Europeans had their own Martial Arts that were lost due to the invention of the gun. The Greeks and Romans had theirs, Alexander the Great was an expert Martial Artist, his style was very similar to the Asian Arts. There are many styles of martial arts and they are all effective if used wisely, the average Joe is at a great disadvantage when going up against a trained Martial Artist of any Style. But some Arts are more complete than others and take a longer time to master, it's all up to the individual. |
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1ONEfighting
Orange Belt


Joined: 11 Apr 2003
Posts: 206
Location: Lawrence Kansas
Styles: A pinch of this, a dash of that.
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Great art. So are all the others. _________________ Trainwreck Tiemeyer
wishes he was R. Lee Ermey. |
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SevenStar
Black Belt

Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Posts: 2631
Location: TN
Styles: bjj, judo, shuai chiao, muay thai
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Some Arts are more complete than others, this is a fact. You have to ask yourself why was this style created. Was it created for Combat? Was it created for Competition? Was it a Combat Style that became a Sport because of disuse? The Europeans had their own Martial Arts that were lost due to the invention of the gun. The Greeks and Romans had theirs, Alexander the Great was an expert Martial Artist, his style was very similar to the Asian Arts. There are many styles of martial arts and they are all effective if used wisely, the average Joe is at a great disadvantage when going up against a trained Martial Artist of any Style. But some Arts are more complete than others and take a longer time to master, it's all up to the individual. |
Whether it's intended to be a sport art or combat art doesn't matter much IMO. They can be used either way. If I throw someone with tsuri komi goshi and he lands on his head and is knocked out, who cares if judo is a sport? Also, I don't think completeness is what makes it take long to master. BJJ is not complete, and it will take you a LONG time to master that. Heck, you may go for over a year without even seeing your FIRST promotion.
As for Alexander, He spent time in india... the question is, did he influence their fighting, or did they influence his? |
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Treebranch
Black Belt

Joined: 21 Mar 2003
Posts: 2264
Location: Glendale, California USA
Styles: Budo Taijutsu, Submission Grappling, Machado Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Kung Fu San Soo, Lima Lama, Taekwondo
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SevenStar wrote: "Whether it's intended to be a sport art or combat art doesn't matter much IMO. They can be used either way. If I throw someone with tsuri komi goshi and he lands on his head and is knocked out, who cares if judo is a sport? Also, I don't think completeness is what makes it take long to master. BJJ is not complete, and it will take you a LONG time to master that. Heck, you may go for over a year without even seeing your FIRST promotion."
I didn't say that Sport Arts could not be used for combat, but Combat Styles are better equiped for combat. That is why a Combat Art is a Combat Art, I encourage you to learn some Combat Martial Art to see for you self, to add to your arsenal. By the way certain Martial Arts do take longer to learn than others, that's a fact jack.
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