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Are breakers Marital Artist, Strength Athletes, or Both?
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Strength Athletes |
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25% |
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Both |
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Tibby
Purple Belt
Joined: 04 Jun 2003
Posts: 597
Location: Jacksonville, Tx
Styles: JuJutsu(Judo), Isshinryu Karate, Boxing, Fencing
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Yeah, the person who told you bones are 40 times stronger is a physics major. Physics and Physiology are to different things. Bones are hollow, and filled with soft tissue. If bones where stronger, then no one would ever break their hands on them. Infact, you wouldn't nead to use any technique if your bones are the strong, we could just rum our forearms into it. because our bones are so much stronger. This site talks about technique, the only time it talks about strength not mattering is when the creak pot PhD starts talking.
Notice when they said “Breaking an object is a good way to practice concentration, power, focus, speed and precision on non-living objects” What do you think give us “power, focus, speed and precision”? Our muscle do all that. The direct our body and accelerate our elbows, fist, and legs toward the wood. This page can’t make up its mind on anything. Is it physics or power? |
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StoneSkin
Orange Belt
Joined: 27 Jun 2003
Posts: 178
Location: Manitoba
Styles: Shotokan
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 11:03 am Post subject: |
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its physics
like i said befor bricks are stronger ie: can hold weight better then bones.
however bricks are far more brittle then bones, and can not with stand the same impact. Of course a person has to have the right technique to break. But lets say you have a flat piece of steel about the same lenth as a breaking board but about 1/16th of an inch thick, just a standard flat piece of steel. If you hit it, it will not break it may bend and absorb the impact like a bone, much better then a bone im not trying to say bones are as strong as steel. Now lets freeze the piece of metal with liquid nitrogen get it ver very very cold. Now hit it and watch it shatter, the metal is more brittle and could not withstand the impact.
I think i have a picture of a young girl breaking a brick,ill have to find it. And post it. |
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StoneSkin
Orange Belt
Joined: 27 Jun 2003
Posts: 178
Location: Manitoba
Styles: Shotokan
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 11:11 am Post subject: |
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Tibby
Purple Belt
Joined: 04 Jun 2003
Posts: 597
Location: Jacksonville, Tx
Styles: JuJutsu(Judo), Isshinryu Karate, Boxing, Fencing
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, the dry, solid boards are a factor. Bones are made to bend a little, give a littlee, with the force. But muscler power has its place, still. How old is that girl? She looks more then just 7 years old to me. |
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StoneSkin
Orange Belt
Joined: 27 Jun 2003
Posts: 178
Location: Manitoba
Styles: Shotokan
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| I never said she was 7 I said she was young. Once you have learned the proper technique to align the bones in your arms properly you lose a lot less power, this is why the karate reverse punch is very powerful because of the verticle fist, the metacarples align with radius and ulna in your forearm which gives you a better energy transfer, bareknucke boxers fought with a verticle fist as well. But either way breaking is mostly technique and has nothing to do with chi. |
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Warp Spider
Brown Belt
Joined: 03 Jul 2003
Posts: 615
Location: The Origin of the Universe
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, the person who told you bones are 40 times stronger is a physics major. Physics and Physiology are to different things. Bones are hollow, and filled with soft tissue. If bones where stronger, then no one would ever break their hands on them. Infact, you wouldn't nead to use any technique if your bones are the strong, we could just rum our forearms into it. because our bones are so much stronger. This site talks about technique, the only time it talks about strength not mattering is when the creak pot PhD starts talking.
Notice when they said “Breaking an object is a good way to practice concentration, power, focus, speed and precision on non-living objects” What do you think give us “power, focus, speed and precision”? Our muscle do all that. The direct our body and accelerate our elbows, fist, and legs toward the wood. This page can’t make up its mind on anything. Is it physics or power? |
You apparently didn't read the entire article. The snapping action of quickly removing your hand sharply reduces the feedback and causes the vibrations imparted by your hand to resonate within the brick/cinder block. This of course causes the brick/cinder block to vibrate and break apart. If it was sheer strength then I'm sure a "master breaker" wouldn't be hurt if you were to smash a cinder block over their hand or head. Trust me - that would seriously injure them.
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StoneSkin
Orange Belt
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Location: Manitoba
Styles: Shotokan
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 1:35 am Post subject: |
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| Seriously Injured ? A lot of people would get killed if you smashed a cinderblock over there head. |
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Warp Spider
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 4:21 am Post subject: |
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Well, I'd say death would constitute a serious injury. 
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on the post.
