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The BB of C
KF Sempai


Joined: 11 Feb 2007
Posts: 587
Location: New York
Styles: Cannon Style, Kuk Sool Won, Isshin-ryu
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:25 am Post subject: |
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"Ong-Bak and the Thai Warrior" was 90% old fashioned Thai Boxing. Otherwise known as Muay Boran as far as Panom Yeerum's role was concerned. In a lot of ways it's very similar to Burmese boxing, but they're not the same. _________________ There is little honor in going down. There is no honor in going down without a fight. --- Victory dwells in the individual, not the style.
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Ace2021
Blue Belt


Joined: 15 Jun 2006
Posts: 279
Location: Texas
Styles: Kyokushin Karate, Brazilian Jujitsu, Mixed Martial Arts
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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I should have been more clear but, I meant in the Fight Tony Jaa had with the Burmese Boxer who injected himself with stuff.
I knew Tony Jaa was using Muay Boran. _________________ Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names. - JFK |
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nine_weapons
Orange Belt

Joined: 31 Jul 2007
Posts: 155
Styles: muay thai, judo, bjj
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:09 am Post subject: |
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| The BB of C wrote: |
| "Ong-Bak and the Thai Warrior" was 90% old fashioned Thai Boxing. Otherwise known as Muay Boran as far as Panom Yeerum's role was concerned. In a lot of ways it's very similar to Burmese boxing, but they're not the same. |
my understanding is that muay boran really isn't that old in itself. Muay boran is the name of a new style - a style which is an attempt to recreate the old styles, which have been lost over time. What is left of muay lon lon, muay lopburi, muay chaiya etc. has been combined into what is now being called muay boran.
However, yeah, the old styles were all very similar. cambodia, burma, thailand, laos, vietnam, etc were all very close and thus had similar styles. Another one that many people have never heard of is called golden village boxing(kmer). Tomoi (malaysia) is another. there are probably some clips on youtube.
the million dollar question is which one came first - and because of the loss of records, that is something nobody is really sure of. |
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The BB of C
KF Sempai


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Location: New York
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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I think that can be answered simply by figuring out in what order civilizations started settling in the varying countries. _________________ There is little honor in going down. There is no honor in going down without a fight. --- Victory dwells in the individual, not the style.
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei


Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 12964
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo,Hapkido, SCA Combat, and I research Medieval Combat
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| nine_weapons wrote: |
| the million dollar question is which one came first - and because of the loss of records, that is something nobody is really sure of. |
With as close as all the civilizations are, and the similarities between the styles, it could be hard to determine. If the territories were warring with each other in any way, it is likely that each had a system in place fairly early, in order to defend against the other. Determining which civilization decided to put the weapons down first, and begin to advance more towards sport, would also help to figure which organization may have started advancing technologically sooner as well, but I could be making a bad assumption there. _________________ Success is where preparation meets opportunity.
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nine_weapons
Orange Belt

Joined: 31 Jul 2007
Posts: 155
Styles: muay thai, judo, bjj
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| The BB of C wrote: |
| I think that can be answered simply by figuring out in what order civilizations started settling in the varying countries. |
not necessarily. The first civilization may have been peaceful. The second may have been barbaric, so the first developed a fighting style to fend them off... Like I said, nobody is really sure. |
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dete
Orange Belt

Joined: 07 Oct 2007
Posts: 138
Location: gotham city
Styles: full contact Karate and grappling
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Burmese boxing is basically not as well sanctioned as Thai boxing, so your gonna have some fights that look like a street fight (Kimbo style) with iffy rules, and others in the ring that look like tough man bouts again, very iffy rules.
I've seen a match/festival where they had a Thai boxer vs Burmese boxer, Burmese boxer got KOed REALLY bad early. so they just picked some dude from the crowd to immediately avenge a loss, not very professional, and he got KOed even worse. These guys are fearless.
Another one I saw between 2 Burmese fighters in the ring, 1 guy got KOed, the corner wakes him up and they CONTINUE! He KOes the other guy in a worse manner, the corner wakes this guy up and he CONTINUES, but, since he recieved a headkick while dangling on the ropes, I doubt he could continue much longer and sure enough he got KOed.
so in some Burmese fights a KO does not end the match. It's when the other fighter truly cannot continue.
These guys are crazy. And I thought the Thai s were crazy! _________________ http://www.freewebs.com/knife4street |
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