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Johnlogic121
Orange Belt

Joined: 23 Jul 2007
Posts: 156
Styles: Montgomery Style Karate, Ninjutsu, Isshinryu, Judo, Mang Chaun Kung Fu, Kempo
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject: Calendar Timing Deadly Strikes |
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The textbook "Chi Kung and Health" by Dr. Yang Zwing-Ming introduces an interesting chart that shows coorespondences between certain martial art strikes and certain zones on the human body that are vulnerable to those types of strikes over the course of a day and over the course of a year. The whole theory has allegedly been developed through centuries of pragmatic research into striking the body where the Chi is circulating at a weak state. For every two hour interval, the Chi is strongest somewhere in the body and weaker elsewhere. This has unusual but beneficial effects. For example, working out in martial arts between 3:00 AM and 5:00 AM is supposed to be easiest when you are doing things involving the hands. Another span of hours is good for legs. Does anybody have training in this type of deadly striking? Does anybody know any good books that might explain the theory further? Does anybody know of any kind of 'antidote' for a strike that disrupts the Chi flow in a way that isn't immediately letha, but potentially devastating for health? I agree that disclosing the details openly might be like giving away a deadly weapon openly, so I am mainly curous if people has heard of this sort of thing and have training in it. Please treat my inquiry like an informal survey. Thank you! Good luck in training! _________________ First Grandmaster - Montgomery Style Karate; 12 year Practitioner - Bujinkan Style Ninjutsu; Isshinryu, Judo, Mang Chaun Kung Fu, Kempo |
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fujau
White Belt

Joined: 26 Jul 2006
Posts: 12
Location: my foot your face
Styles: lau gar kuin
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:16 am Post subject: |
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The a style in the states called torite Jutsu it is not style specific and can be overlaid on any style it is based on the chinese traditional medicine
go to the www.dragonsociety.com you will find more info there l
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei


Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 11994
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo,Hapkido, SCA Combat, and I research Medieval Combat
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:38 am Post subject: |
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It sounds kind of fishy to me. I don't really buy into the chi being week at certain times of the day. Perhaps I don't think it would be weak enough to make that much of a difference.
What I would like to know is how the study was conducted to deduce where the chi was flowing and when. To my knowledge, I don't believe there is any system in place to track this "flow" throughout the body. _________________ Success is where preparation meets opportunity.
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ying&yang
Purple Belt


Joined: 29 Jan 2008
Posts: 513
Location: melbourne
Styles: JKD , and 15 others
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:59 am Post subject: |
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Its a bit weird , because i can train any body part and time of the day and it feels fine. Also the whole deadly stricking has nothing to do with Chi flow, its a science if you hit that certain point this will happen and its been proven and it works , so it has nothing to do with Chi. _________________ I think that there is no 1 style , and that to truly become a great martial artist and person you must take information from where ever you can. |
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fujau
White Belt

Joined: 26 Jul 2006
Posts: 12
Location: my foot your face
Styles: lau gar kuin
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:39 am Post subject: |
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The body is made up of i think around 360 or so points not to sure of the exact number it is based on a the 5 element theory in the destructive cycle. Fire attacks metal attacks wood, penetrates earth attacks water
Each one of the 12 meridians have elements associated with it ie fire has small intestine pericardium heart and triple burner, metal has lung and large intestine . when you hit these points together you get pain. To strike with these you need a great degree of skill and probably works best in chinna where you have time to work on your partner. But for the person that practice these strike arts earns the right to use them. |
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Throwdown0850
Blue Belt


Joined: 16 Feb 2008
Posts: 338
Styles: Kodokan Judo, AikiJuJutsu, Kenpo Karate, just started Kyusho-Jitsu
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| Its a bit weird , because i can train any body part and time of the day and it feels fine. Also the whole deadly stricking has nothing to do with Chi flow, its a science if you hit that certain point this will happen and its been proven and it works , so it has nothing to do with Chi. |
I agree.. they hurt.. _________________ You must become more than just a man in the mind of your opponent. -Henri Ducard |
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Bushido-Ruach
Yellow Belt

Joined: 03 Mar 2008
Posts: 41
Location: California
Styles: Self-defense MMA
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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Pressure points are a wonderful thing for self-defense. I'm not sure that I agree with the whole Chi theory, but I do know that time differences are based (in reality, I believe) not on Chi flow but on the fact that certain organs of the body work (or work harder) during certain times of the day or night.
Most of them are based upon points on the body where main nerves or nerve bundles are closer to the surface of the skin, usually at muscle intervals where the muscles overlap or come togeter. As far as activating these points, they usually work only painfully, not detrimentally, when grasped and digging your fingers, knuckles, elbow....whatever into the area.
Like I said, they are wonderful for self-defense, but there are, sadly, a lot of people out there that would get their jollies off purposely hurting people. One should only teach these points to mature students that the instructor knows well enough to say that the student wouldn't misuse the knowledge. _________________ Using no Way, AS Way...
Using no Limitation, AS Limitation |
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