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MizuRyu
Green Belt
Joined: 30 Aug 2005
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Location: Michigan
Styles: Present: Judo/Boxing, Past: Ryu-Te, Tang Soo Do, Wing Chun, BJJ
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 Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:39 am Post subject: Chi Interaction And Manipulation |
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There was a seminar last night about qi that I believe did truely change the way I view it forever.
There was a man named Jeff Kohlman there, and he spoke of qi and how it's losing believers in many of the martial arts in modern times. He brought a bunch of people up to demonstrate a few things, and I got picked for a 'pulling and pushing' thing.
Basically, he'd hover his hand over my back and move it, and I could feel it there, but I knew it wasn't touching me, then, he'd do something, and it would feel like someone's pulling me back, so I stepped back, but he NEVER touched me throughout the entire thing. He did it again, except the 2nd time he pushed me forward. It felt like something not physical for sure, it didn't feel like any specific part of me was being messed with, but just some weird 'magnetic' feeling in the core of myself is what moved me.
I basically was stunned at the whole performance. I wanted to think it may have been some trick, but he was taking non-martial artists out of the crowd, including one of my friend's fathers, and doing things that you could tell were BLOWING their minds. He did something in particular that made a guy freak out. He 'compressed' qi in his hand and moved it up his arm, and the guy had a smile of disbelief, saying it felt like his arm was falling asleep.
It really flipped my view on qi all together. Sure, these things may just be little qi tricks, but to me they prove something. I think I'm going to go do some breathing exercises now lol.
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
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Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, and I research Medieval Combat
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Whoa, that is something else. Sounds almost creepy. Can't imagine feeling that. Sounds very cool though. I wonder how long he has worked at it?
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lordtariel
Black Belt
Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Posts: 1709
Location: Oregon
Styles: (Past)Judo, Yang Family Tai Chi, (Current)Shito-Ryu Karate, Kobudo(Tonfajitsu)
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While I don't believe it's some deep powerful mystical secret thing, I do believe that everybody does have some kind of internal energy that can be minipulated in different ways.
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bushido_man96
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I agree, lordtariel. I think it just takes lots of practice and work to harness it.
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hurricane
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Joined: 27 Jan 2006
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Styles: Shotokan
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| Wow!!! That IS very interesting! Do you know now he practices for that? |
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MizuRyu
Green Belt
Joined: 30 Aug 2005
Posts: 381
Location: Michigan
Styles: Present: Judo/Boxing, Past: Ryu-Te, Tang Soo Do, Wing Chun, BJJ
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He said it was all qigong. I'm not sure what art in particular he practiced, I know he teaches Wing Chun and 5 Animals.
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TigerCrane
Yellow Belt
Joined: 22 Sep 2006
Posts: 51
Location: USA
Styles: Hung Gar, Shotokan Karate, Tai Chi
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| Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:15 pm Post subject: Chi Gong is Simply Mind Blowing |
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Hi all! I am a Hung Gar practitioner for over six years and I am knew to this forum. I once attempted to research on both the spiritual and scientific nature of Chi, and to be honest there is still not one real definition or explanation for it. I often introduce it as the "bioelectric" force that surrounds us. I'm excited to see fellow martial artists who are interested in this subject!
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
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Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, and I research Medieval Combat
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| Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:23 am Post subject: Re: Chi Gong is Simply Mind Blowing |
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| TigerCrane wrote: |
| Hi all! I am a Hung Gar practitioner for over six years and I am knew to this forum. I once attempted to research on both the spiritual and scientific nature of Chi, and to be honest there is still not one real definition or explanation for it. I often introduce it as the "bioelectric" force that surrounds us. I'm excited to see fellow martial artists who are interested in this subject! |
That is an interesting outlook on the subject. Welcome to KF, by the way! 
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cathal
Black Belt
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Location: Canada
Styles: Shotokan, Jiu-Jitsu, Ryukyu Kobujutsu
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There was something on Discovery about that a while back. It was very interesting. They were taking measurements on the energies which are around our bodies. They were able to measure the ones around plants and wanted to see if humans and animals were the same. As I recall they concluded that there are similar electric fields around animals & humans as well, and subtle manipulations of those fields could result in a lot of different things.
I am going to try finding it and I'll let you know what that program was called.
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on the post.
