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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
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Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo,Hapkido, SCA Combat, and I research Medieval Combat
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No need to apologize, BB of C. I know that your intentions are good. I would just hate to see a hesitiation on your part because you feel like you have an obligation to someone who is attacking you.
Even those who say things like you quote, still don't realize how difficult it is to do something like that. If you plan on beating someone to death, you have to get them pretty well incapacitated first. Once they are unconcious, then the real damage gets done. Sure, there are some freak accidents that happen at times, but they are few and far between.
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The BB of C
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Location: New York
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Thanks. That's sincerely reassuring 
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KarateEd
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Location: Alabama
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| No need to apologize, BB of C. I know that your intentions are good. I would just hate to see a hesitation on your part because you feel like you have an obligation to someone who is attacking you. |
I agree with bushido_man, no need to apologize.
Ed
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Throwdown0850
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Joined: 16 Feb 2008
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Styles: Kodokan Judo, AikiJuJutsu, Kenpo Karate, just started Kyusho-Jitsu
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| Actually 'Thou shall not kill' is a mistranslation, although it is understandable how it came about. That particular term started with the king James bible as the first major edition to appear in (granted, dated) English. However the actual term translated from original Hebrew is 'You shall not murder'. Granted both actions involve killing, however the difference is intent and purpose/justification. For instance, lets say I don't like someone so I shoot him. Is such an action justified? On the other hand, what if someone is on a shooting rampage and I can stop them with a gun before they kill someone else. Both cases involve the action of killing, however the reasons for doing so make the difference if it was justified or not. You could say the same thing for driving. What if one day I go 100 MPH through the neighborhood to buy drugs, while the next I drive my grandmother to the hospital? I drove in both cases, however in one my driving was 'bad' and the other my driving was 'good'. What's the difference between manslaughter and murder? An act of self defense and picking fights? So it is the same for that particular commandment. That isn't to say that it is bad to want to avoid hurting someone- I'd say that is a very good thing. And lets face it- are most of the killings done in the world not done for good reasons? |
wow.. I didnt know that. you guys are full of info here.. |
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bushido_man96
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Pretty cool stuff, huh?
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The BB of C
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I'd agree.
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seersin
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Joined: 04 Feb 2005
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Location: Charlotte,NC
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| NightOwl wrote: |
| Actually 'Thou shall not kill' is a mistranslation, although it is understandable how it came about. That particular term started with the king James bible as the first major edition to appear in (granted, dated) English. However the actual term translated from original Hebrew is 'You shall not murder'. Granted both actions involve killing, however the difference is intent and purpose/justification. For instance, lets say I don't like someone so I shoot him. Is such an action justified? On the other hand, what if someone is on a shooting rampage and I can stop them with a gun before they kill someone else. Both cases involve the action of killing, however the reasons for doing so make the difference if it was justified or not. You could say the same thing for driving. What if one day I go 100 MPH through the neighborhood to buy drugs, while the next I drive my grandmother to the hospital? I drove in both cases, however in one my driving was 'bad' and the other my driving was 'good'. What's the difference between manslaughter and murder? An act of self defense and picking fights? So it is the same for that particular commandment. That isn't to say that it is bad to want to avoid hurting someone- I'd say that is a very good thing. And lets face it- are most of the killings done in the world not done for good reasons? |
wow.. I didnt know that. you guys are full of info here.. |
Get a good strongs concordance,It has every word in hebrew9the old testament) and the actual meaning and a section for the (Greek) new testament. Like for instance if you went to Exodus 20:13,then looked up kill in the hebrew section.It gives and number flip over to the number part,and it gives the actual definition of the word in the Hebrew meaning.In this case the word kill there is not to murder,kill cold bloodedly to not murder maliciously.
PS I know I'm a little late but I havent been to these forums in a few months.
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