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Muaythaiboxer
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some religions believe it is wrong to show any agression, and some of the monks at the tempel where i go dont think i should do the martial arts. but in my perspective i believe it is my duty to defend my self in a confrontation because if i become a persons victom them i give them a chance to harm another person and give them bad karma.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very well thought out article. I have never seen any problematic elements of being a Christian and a martial artist, nor have I run into anyone who frowns upon that connection...

Sounds like a TKD group (my sister trains w/ them) in my home town is having the opposite problem.. They have already been kicked out of one church basement into my church's... And it sounds like they are catching flak for that also! Ridiculous. I almost guarantee that none of the people raising concerns have been to their training nor know anything about TKD. I hope that if serious procedures (e.g. church council meeting) come about, I'm back home so I can go to bat for those guys... good group of kids, not a thing wrong with their training; yet, in a small town, ignorance breeds problems...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my church used to teach TKD. ($15 a month) and there were many, many students (upwards of 50) that took here. Several of them made it to black belt, some of them making it as high as 3rd degree BB. I am studying to be a pastor and I would love to teach MA at my church one day.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is your rank right now, if you don't mind me asking?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i didnt realize some of the close ties between religon and martial arts. i treat both seperately
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice article. I agree with many of the responses, but I did not read all of them!

Your piece made me think of MLK who studied eastern religions and used them to build his understanding of non-violent protest.

Also, are you familiar with the work of Terrance Webster-Doyle, who founded a group called Martial Arts for Peace? They have a website. It's not specifically Christian, but it does address some issues Christians are concerned with, such as nonviolence, justice, peace, and conflict management.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will have to check it out. Nonviolence is a good thing, but my understanding of Scripture is that justified violence or righteous anger was not forbidden. Turning the other cheek meant not to strike back for a small infraction of your person, but it didn't mean to be someone's punching bag or to let someone else be a punching bag. In our home we are trrying to teach our children not to bully others because they are bigger or stronger, but to protect those who are weaker than themselves. We are having mixed success. Christ was able to keep this perfect balance, I fail all the time. Good thing there is forgiveness.

BTW, who is MLK?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry --MLK= Martin Luther King, Jr. Am I right in saying he studied some eastern philosophies?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't have a clue. Not much into Martin Luther King Jr. Too far removed from that situation I guess. Affected my parents more than me. I grew up believing that color doesn't matter. I tend to be prejudiced towards individuals not entire ethnic groups.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:18 am    Post subject: good article Reply with quote

This article was good. I am a Christian and a martial artist. I enjoy being with my dojo brothers and sisters.

My personal opinion is if you feel uneasy with bowing, speak to the instructor (in a calm mannor), then something maybe worked out.
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