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MartialArthur
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HongKongFooey wrote:
I don't know why people let religion get in the way of an activity they enjoy. Is it guilt? Fear? Someone help me to understand, here.


In many cases it's a good thing. Religion can interfere with drug use, promiscuity, dishonesty...even though people may enjoy these activities.

lordtariel wrote:
I believe that you're taking things too literally. I believe the bible is refering to master in the spiritual sense not the physical sense. If you follow somone and serve them as if they were god, then you have a problem.


That's the point: fundamentalists take the bible literally as part of their religion. They believe every word in the Bible is literal, including Mathew 6:24 "No one can serve two masters". I don't agree with them, but this is what they say.

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patusai
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MartialArthur wrote:
patusai, while I agree that it is a rediculous argument, you are missing an important point. The Bible does not say that you cannot call someone "father", but it does say that "you cannot serve two masters" (Mathew 6:24).

This is, of course, a silly argument because I don't know anyone who "serves" his MA master.


You're right about your bible verse. I think that there is confusion about what "serve" means. I believe that money can be considered a "master" too. The more I think about it the less I worry about it. I think that God understands the whole thing a lot better than I do and I believe that he is more worried about other things that I may do moreso than my karate
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HongKongFooey
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

patusai wrote:
MartialArthur wrote:
patusai, while I agree that it is a rediculous argument, you are missing an important point. The Bible does not say that you cannot call someone "father", but it does say that "you cannot serve two masters" (Mathew 6:24).

This is, of course, a silly argument because I don't know anyone who "serves" his MA master.


You're right about your bible verse. I think that there is confusion about what "serve" means. I believe that money can be considered a "master" too. The more I think about it the less I worry about it. I think that God understands the whole thing a lot better than I do and I believe that he is more worried about other things that I may do moreso than my karate



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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with both of you. It's the fundamentalists that want to take the words literally. I don't think there is really a problem.

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