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cross
Black Belt


Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Posts: 1872
Location: Australia
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei


Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 13452
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, and I research Medieval Combat
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NASTY!!!
"Hey, Chuck, punch me!!" Good one!
Thanks for sharing! _________________ Success is where preparation meets opportunity.
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KNOCKuOUT
Orange Belt

Joined: 30 Mar 2007
Posts: 136
Location: Fords, New Jersey
Styles: Kenpo, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
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| I love Chuck Liddell. He's a beast, but his form is a little sloppy. |
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shinbushi
Yellow Belt

Joined: 25 Jul 2007
Posts: 25
Location: combat zones
Styles: MT, knockdown, bjj, mma, and more
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| KNOCKuOUT wrote: |
| I love Chuck Liddell. He's a beast, but his form is a little sloppy. |
A little is an understatement, I'm amazed he made it as far as he did. Thank god the UFC is starting to get some good fighters, and not just poster boys like Lidell and Franklin. |
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TigerDude
Green Belt

Joined: 10 Apr 2006
Posts: 370
Styles: Goju Ryu
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm amazed he made it as far as he did. |
He made it as far as he did because he gets results, not because he adhers to some standard of "form."
The proof of the pudding is in the taste, not the recipe. _________________ If you think only of hitting, springing, striking or touching the enemy, you will not be able actually to cut him. You must thoroughly research this. - Musashi |
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Ace2021
Blue Belt


Joined: 15 Jun 2006
Posts: 279
Location: Texas
Styles: Kyokushin Karate, Brazilian Jujitsu, Mixed Martial Arts
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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Good vids, love Chuck's "unorthodox" technique. _________________ Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names. - JFK |
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cross
Black Belt


Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Posts: 1872
Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| shinbushi wrote: |
| KNOCKuOUT wrote: |
| I love Chuck Liddell. He's a beast, but his form is a little sloppy. |
A little is an understatement, I'm amazed he made it as far as he did. Thank god the UFC is starting to get some good fighters, and not just poster boys like Lidell and Franklin. |
Sure, if you look in a boxing textbook, you wont see anything chuck liddell does in there. But just because it doesnt "look" good, doesnt mean it bad. He has proven time and time again that what he does works for him. |
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marie curie
KF Sempai


Joined: 18 Oct 2005
Posts: 1021
Location: PA, USA
Styles: Ko Sutemi Seiei Kan Karate, Kajukenbo, Kodokan Judo, Gracie Barra Jiu-Jitsu, Olympic Tae Kwon Doe
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Yeh, it's really funny and almost frustrating to watch, when we work so hard on technique. But what works for you is best for you, and this obviously works for him.
The physical principals are sound- "like you are swinging a bag of quarters" or something like that, seriously increasing the speed and thus power at the end of that punch. What I can't figure out is how he is getting, what is almost a haymaker, passed professional fighters' defenses. _________________ You suck-train harder.......................Don't block with your face
A good traveler has no fixed plans, and is not intent on arriving.
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nine_weapons
Orange Belt

Joined: 31 Jul 2007
Posts: 155
Styles: muay thai, judo, bjj
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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| shinbushi wrote: |
| KNOCKuOUT wrote: |
| I love Chuck Liddell. He's a beast, but his form is a little sloppy. |
A little is an understatement, I'm amazed he made it as far as he did. Thank god the UFC is starting to get some good fighters, and not just poster boys like Lidell and Franklin. |
his form is very intentional. He teaches seminars on how to throw those same punches. he uses an unorthodox overhand. Not a big deal. When it comes to fighting, results are far more important than form. |
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nine_weapons
Orange Belt

Joined: 31 Jul 2007
Posts: 155
Styles: muay thai, judo, bjj
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| marie curie wrote: |
Yeh, it's really funny and almost frustrating to watch, when we work so hard on technique. But what works for you is best for you, and this obviously works for him.
The physical principals are sound- "like you are swinging a bag of quarters" or something like that, seriously increasing the speed and thus power at the end of that punch. What I can't figure out is how he is getting, what is almost a haymaker, passed professional fighters' defenses. |
a haymaker is a profesional punch. it is an old boxing punch that has now been labeled as some wild swinging streetfighter's punch. the haymaker is a variation of the overhand. there are a few things to think about here:
such punches come from above and/or diagonal - an odd angle
it is a powerful strike - even if blocked, it will cause damage and set up something else.
in a world where people are more accustomed to evading the more efficient straight punches, an overhand can wreak havoc. |
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