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BrerRobot
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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2002 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been taking Krav Maga for about 4 months now. Seems to be pretty cool. Not alot of * to it. Havent really had to use it on anybody yet, came close with a thief stealing dvds form where i work. I slapped dvds out of his hand thinking he'd run away and he had one in his hand and slashed me near the temple with the protective case, then i jabbed him in the mouth. After that i backed up to see if he would fight, he just picked the dvd's back up and started running away. chased him into the street knocked dvds out of his hand again. went to hit me, i turned my head down, away from him, to avoid the punch, saw a car swerve to miss him, so i tried pushing him into it, which created some distance,then other people i work with told me i was bleeding pretty good, by then the guy was picking up the dvd's AGAIN!! i stopped for a second to see how bad my face was, by then the guy was already across the street and getting away. I needed stitches but i was fine to fight. what sucked is that he didnt want to at all. he came back into the store this saturday when i wasnt working and filled a bag of dvds and walked out. people said he kept grabbing his crotch area as if he had something other than his dingus there. cops havent done anything about it. they told us to just attack him when he passes the counter. THANKS COPS. now he's bringing weapons. but anyway krav maga is pretty cool if they even have it where you live. theres only 1 place in dfw. lots of fun and good attitudes.
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2002 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If law enforcement is your goal you might want to try an art that has controling moves. Hapkido is good for this. Also a filipino martial art has a lot of stick techniques with trapping and weapon disarms. Just remember to stay simple in the techniques that you plan to use. You wont want to try a difficult or technical move when a situation develops on the street.

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2002 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, a grappling art would be good for you, but DON'T stop practicing Muay Thai. You need to be a well rounded fighter. A pretty good combination could be Muay Thai+JuJitsu+Filipino Kali (for weapons).
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about S C A R S! It's supposed to be a combaty art and a lot of Police Departments uses these techniques...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're in it purely for self-defense, Muay Thai is a good art to learn. it'll toughen you up and have you dishing out you fair share of whup-a** should it come to blows out on the streets.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before starting any other art stay with Muay Thai and create a real strong base. After a few years start to cross. Don't get jumpy and jump from art to art. Stay focused and then spread out. Good luck.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2002 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I still think all these people advocating Muay Thai are missing the point that a police officer is not supposed to be beating the life out of suspects in a one-on-one hand-to-hand confrontation.

I don't think it'd even be a good base for law enforcement. The whole attitude and approach is wrong.

For law enforcement you want to subdue the suspects with minimum fuss and damage, preferably with controlling locks and stuff, not punching them in the face so they can sue you later for excessive force.

The whole idea of a police officer is to keep the peace, not fight it out for glory with criminals, reducing them to a bloody pulp.

I'd still recommend something like BJJ, Judo, Aikido, Krav Maga, or even normal Ju-Jitsu (which actually incorporates police type arrest and search routines in some schools, which were used for Japanese police training).

Lest anyone doubt me, consider the whole Rodney King affair, and how differently it might have turned out if instead of three armed guys pounding the life out of an unarmed man, there was even one competent, level headed Judo or Aikido practitioner on the squad capable of subduing and arresting the suspect with minimal fuss, and without leaving a mass of bloody, semi-permanent injuries for all to see even weeks later.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2002 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, but it depends on your situation. There is quite a difference between cops and pedestrians.

Cops:
Have backup
Usually confront individuals
Have their guns in case things go wrong

Pedestrians:
Are usually alone
Are usually confronted by groups
Have nothing much to back them up

For a pedestrian being confronted by 2 or more, it is SUICIDE to take it to the ground. You must stay upright, mobile, and ready to haul a** the first chance you get. For this, Krav Maga would be easy to learn and effective (although by no means the best, period).

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

muaythaidm wrote:
Right now i take Muay THai kickboxing but i want to start a martial art just for the street. What do you think is the best, and most well rounded(strikes, weapons, defense agiants weapons, and grappling) combat art? Is there one? IF so please tell me what you think. thanks


Hey buddy,don't you like your muay thai,it's the best for stand up,however if you're looking for a mixed martial arts which does both muay thai and grappling, pankration or shooto fighting which are basically the same would be your best bet.

I do pankration,however I fight muay thai though because it's what I do best and because I have the long legs for it.

Pankration and Shooto are specifically for street-defense.

So they do everything muay thai does,plus submission wrestling techniques such as throws,arm bars,wrist locks,ankle locks,knee bars,different kinds of chokes,neck cranks,reversals etc.from different positioning like guard,mount,side body and reverside body.

If you have already done alot of muay thai though,perhaps you just want to do one individual art and add it to what you already know,in that case you could do submission wrestling,jujitsu,judo anything with grappling,because stand up and grappling make the best arts.

After all most fights go to ground,so why not learn something that has to do with grappling.

You also mentioned weapons training,have you ever considered arnis or kali,I've never done it myself,but I might one day.

Whatever you do don't jump from school to school to learn different arts,you can't learn properly that way and will be spending more money then learning.

You could always join army if you want.

I 'm trying to get in CF (Canadian Forces)right now,but it's not easy to get in.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knuth wrote:
Before starting any other art stay with Muay Thai and create a real strong base. After a few years start to cross. Don't get jumpy and jump from art to art. Stay focused and then spread out. Good luck.


That's a good suggestion,because constantly changing arts can be confusing and you won't learn much that way.

Doing a mixed art is okay though.
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