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Dazed and Confused
Orange Belt
Joined: 06 Dec 2006
Posts: 146
Location: Staffordshire, UK
Styles: Past: TKD Current: JKD, Incorporating Silat and Kali
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 Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:08 am Post subject: Defending younger siblings |
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I was just wondering what you all would do in the situation that I found myself in last night (New Year's eve). My 16 year old sister and her boyfriend, who is all of 5'6" and skinny as a rake, were being pushed around by two 17 year old yobs who were 6' tall and built like tanks. Every time I went outside (I was working in the pub) the lads would scarper, so I never actually saw what was going on, but my sister was in tears and her boyfriend clearly shaken. I eventually ran into the two of them and told them to back off, but I was roundly ignored. My every impulse was to give one or both of them a smack, but them being 17 and having not seen anything I didn't. They only eventually backed off when my stepdad basically hauled one of them against a wall and told him where to go. So now I regret not taking a similar course of action myself.
What would you have done? It's such a legally and morally dubious area, so I would be very interested in your opinions. |
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baronbvp
Black Belt
Joined: 27 Feb 2005
Posts: 1132
Location: Berlin, Germany
Styles: JKD/MMA, Muay Thai, Shorin Ryu, military combat arts, fencing, archery
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I think you did the right thing, particularly if it happened where you work. Unless you were prepared to "start" something you would have had to finish - likely including discussions with police afterward that would pull you away from working the bar on New Year's Eve - you weren't in a position to do much other than tell them where to go. The only other thing you might have done is call your security guys about them loitering and make them leave. Like you said, it was a weird situation.
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gheinisch
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Joined: 09 Jan 2003
Posts: 2119
Location: Newnan, Georgia
Styles: Hon-Shin-Do - Shodan
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I agree with the way you handled it. Any differently you may have risked yourself being in trouble with the law as well as your employment. When your sibling is involved in the situation it makes it even harder to maintain control and composure. Well done.
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ashworth
Green Belt
Joined: 13 Nov 2006
Posts: 380
Location: UK
Styles: done a freestyle for several years, and currently training in GKR. Train with my father aswel in the ways of shotokan...
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:31 am Post subject: |
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i agree with the previous posts, you did the right thing.
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 13960
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, and I research Medieval Combat
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Maybe the first thing you should have done was inform your father, so that the two of you can handle it together. 2 on 1 is bad. 2 on 2 is better.
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a_ninja
Orange Belt
Joined: 18 Dec 2006
Posts: 174
Location: Laurel, Mississippi
Styles: Green belt in shotokan karte, and know a little about alot of other styles, but not from schools such as kung fu, muay thai, tai kwon do, and weapons
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I would have hurt them, and hurt them bad, because when it comes to family i dont fool around, but the boyfriend should have did something even though he was skinny that is no excuse.
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lordtariel
Black Belt
Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Posts: 1709
Location: Oregon
Styles: (Past)Judo, Yang Family Tai Chi, (Current)Shito-Ryu Karate, Kobudo(Tonfajitsu)
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| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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If they were hanging out at the pub, then they should have complained to the manager and had the other guys thrown out. If they wouldn't leave then call the police. It's better to let the law handle things than to get involved yourself unless there's immediate danger.
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KaratekaAndy
Yellow Belt
Joined: 02 Feb 2006
Posts: 66
Location: United Kingdom
Styles: Karate
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| Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:49 am Post subject: |
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If it was me, I would have started on them - mainly because I don't fudge around when family is involved. 
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karateone
Yellow Belt
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Posts: 39
Location: Tennessee
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| I would have beat the living crap out of them. i don't have any sisters but i do have a cousin who is as close to me as a sister and she knows i would fight for her. i do have a little brother, he's small but he is mean as he!!. the boyfriend must be pretty sorry if he can't fight for his girlfriend. my fiance knows i would fight for her because i have already proved it. |
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KNOCKuOUT
Orange Belt
Joined: 30 Mar 2007
Posts: 136
Location: Fords, New Jersey
Styles: Kenpo, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
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| I would have seriously went crazy. I would have been gritting my teeth and snarling so bad at them that if they decided to stick around for more, they would have gotten more. I agree with some of the previous postings. I don't mes around when it comes to my family! |
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on the post.
