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Sam
Black Belt
Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Posts: 1746
Styles: ITF TKD, Wu Shu, Muay Thai
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| Just to address "violence never solved anything" thing..... personally i think anyone who said that hasnt ever really looked over a history book - violence has a habbit of settling a lot of things very well.... just should be a last resort rather than a first. |
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WudangDragon
Yellow Belt
Joined: 11 Jun 2005
Posts: 74
Location: Glasgow,Scotland
Styles: Lang Jun Kuen Lau Gar Kung Fu
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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as for the defence to pushing question, i tend to go with a counter attack.
if your right handed/footed, when the bully pushes you, grab his right hand, pull him and twist so he goes past you. he's now behind you and lightly to the left. his balance will be seriously comprimised as well.
a quick punch or kick to the middle/chest area will knock him flying. spin fast as you go to face him, adding centrifugal force to your blow.
exactly. violence occaisionally is the answer, but should ALWAYS be a last resort (not to sound anoying or "holier than thou", we all lose it sometimes).
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Menjo
Black Belt
Joined: 27 Jun 2005
Posts: 1786
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:41 am Post subject: |
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| It is pretty agravating how alot of schools are so strict with this(I can see why though) however I find the best is too throw them down or if you think you really need to front thrust them. If you can tell someone is going to attack you may want to think about who they are and how they attack. For getting suspended most likely they will take your word over the attacker(usually the attacker has a history) if they dont its up to you to say the story otherwise theres nothing you can do which is really stupid. |
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JusticeZero
Green Belt
Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 487
Location: Melbourne, AU
Styles: Capoeira Angola
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 2:51 am Post subject: |
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Right, that's another advantage of fighting back hard - it saves you punishment in the long run, since so many schools have a policy of punishing both people equally.
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Oopgrub
Yellow Belt
Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Posts: 48
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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I was always taught by my teacher that pushing is the second stage in a fight, and you shouldnt let it get there. But if it does, you should be the one to throw the first punch.
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Sam
Black Belt
Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Posts: 1746
Styles: ITF TKD, Wu Shu, Muay Thai
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| doesnt put you in the best legal position but i geuss it ends it quickly. |
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ravenzoom
Green Belt
Joined: 07 Feb 2005
Posts: 384
Location: Quebec, Canada
Styles: BJJ
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| It depends of the martial art you practice also. When I did Wing Chun my sifu told me he'd like the other guy to throw the first punch. Knowing Wing Chun I can understand this because of their trapping techniques, but in other arts it's probably better to throw the first punch. |
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ItalianMuayThai
Orange Belt
Joined: 31 May 2005
Posts: 121
Styles: Muay Thai, TKD, Western Boxing
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:31 am Post subject: Re: Defense against School Scuffles |
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In karate, Kumite matches are controlled, stopped every time a point is scored, and stopped if an opponent gives up.
At school, kids shove each other, and if a real fight happens, it is not controlled (duh) and often, multiple people gang up on one person.
I am too worried about getting suspended to get in a fight, but how are you supposed to defend against pushing? I often used perry blocks but many times, there are multiple people pushing me in the middle. I don't hang out with these bullies, but sometimes, they follow me.
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Notify anyone with authority. Most of your peers will look at this as being scared or what ever else they can think of. But its better then being suspended. In 10 years no one will care you told a teacher about someone trying to fight you. But a college might notice a suspension and recognize that as a behavioral problem. So many consequences, for something so petty
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Zeke
White Belt
Joined: 03 Jul 2005
Posts: 24
Styles: TKD ,Wing Chun, Collie, Etc
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:41 am Post subject: |
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A while back... bout a year ago I got into a fight or started to, right in front of a teacher. He was watching what was going on. This kid threw a big John Wayne Overhand and I blocked it as hard as I could and I almost broke the kids arm. since a teacher saw this so i didnt get suspended but this other kid did for 3 days.
My advice. Block before you attack.. and if you have to attack. attack un notacibly like a low kick to the shin or somthing low. just dont do it too hard because if the guy bends over the teacher will think you are the aggressor and you will get suspended. But the best thing to do is just to walk away and pay no attention to them.
Just if you do walk away make sure there not following.
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Sam
Black Belt
Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Posts: 1746
Styles: ITF TKD, Wu Shu, Muay Thai
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, dont turn your back whenm someones attacking  |
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on the post.
