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glockmeister
Green Belt
Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Posts: 463
Location: Pa
Styles: Haganah, Krav Maga, JKD, Kickboxing,BJJ, Judo
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Most attackers especially muggers, pursesnatchers and the like, are not expecting a very violent, vicious counter-attack. In Krav Maga and Haganah, we are trained to respond to an attack with extreme counter aggression. As soon as you get home on the defensive, then his main concern is now defending agains the would-be victim instead of the other way around. I never think you should hit the atatcker and then give ground. Never give the attacker a chance to regroup, it just makes him more cautious. once you take him down, don't let him have the ability to get back up either.
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Sam
Black Belt
Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Posts: 1746
Styles: ITF TKD, Wu Shu, Muay Thai
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| The only problem with that approach is once he stops attacking you and begins any sort of defense or retreat you are no longer [by law] acting in self defense you are the aggressor.! |
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Shorinryu Sensei
Black Belt
Joined: 13 Jun 2002
Posts: 2045
Location: Kalispell, Montana
Styles: Shorinryu Matsumura Kenpo (Seito/Orthodox) Karate and Kobudo
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Sam wrote: |
| The only problem with that approach is once he stops attacking you and begins any sort of defense or retreat you are no longer [by law] acting in self defense you are the aggressor.! |
This is very true. Myself, I like an aggressive opponent. I'm a counter-fighter. They attack, I counter while their open. It's worked well for me, but agreed, it isn't for everybody. Shorin Ryu is that sort of system generally anyway, and it fits my personality.
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Sam
Black Belt
Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Posts: 1746
Styles: ITF TKD, Wu Shu, Muay Thai
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| It works well as far as covering your own * goes as well... just if he tries to punch you and you break his knee with a kick your more likely to get a way with it than attacking with several techniques - because he may say he tried to retreat... etc.. etc.. |
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glockmeister
Green Belt
Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Posts: 463
Location: Pa
Styles: Haganah, Krav Maga, JKD, Kickboxing,BJJ, Judo
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I agree with that. As far as him retreating, I agree, if he retreats, then he is no longer a threat, however if I am suddently under an attack by a mugger, I am not going to give him a chance to regroup. in other words, I am not going to use some technique to cause him to fall, wait for him to get back up, he comes at me, I dodge and attack, wait for another, etc.. You get the idea... 
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Sam
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Styles: ITF TKD, Wu Shu, Muay Thai
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| yeah - just a bit of a grey area in the law. |
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Kajukenbopr
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Joined: 18 Jun 2005
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Styles: Kajukenbo - Emperado Method
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:42 am Post subject: |
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always think of keeping yourself and everyone around safe. IF it requires you to, then attack, but avoid it until necessary.
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Kajukenbopr
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Styles: Kajukenbo - Emperado Method
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:44 am Post subject: |
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counterattack is defense, and its a great way of taking control of a fight.
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Sam
Black Belt
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its also on the safer side of the law...  |
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Zaine
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both of them cause if you use just one your gonna get beat if they know what there doing but if they dont, attack would be better
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on the post.
