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Alan Armstrong
Black Belt
Joined: 28 Feb 2016
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Yes all types of knockouts are dangerous, it just common sense that they are.
No one (in their right mind) is going to volunteer to be knocked out by their instructor, there is alot on trust on the student's part, that is instantaneously lost on impact.
When discussing knockouts, there is also the precision striking aspects but with the student standing motionless; as a very easy target for the instructor. The student is taught not to be an easy target (to move out of the way) and what is the student asked to do? "To be an easy target!"
Precision striking on moving targets is not so easy... |
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strangepair03
Blue Belt
Joined: 15 Dec 2004
Posts: 312
Location: New Jersey
Styles: Okinawan Shorinji Ryu Karate-Do
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Any instructor in this day and age that would knowingly knock a student out is a few sandwiches short of a picnic . Not only from the medical standpoint, but the legal and financial repercussions could and should be substantial.
As for the dillman school of "no touch knockouts".....That's just plain silly. I was a corrections officer in a pretty rough jail and from my experiences pressure points stuff doesn't work. Just IMHO.
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cheesefrysamurai
Purple Belt
Joined: 06 Mar 2013
Posts: 502
Location: New Jersey
Styles: Okinawan Goju Ryu
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I find this practice offensive. And my dojo is very physical.
I wouldn't train there.
Especially when you consider all that's coming out about concussive injuries.
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Alan Armstrong
Black Belt
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| cheesefrysamurai wrote: |
I find this practice offensive. And my dojo is very physical.
I wouldn't train there.
Especially when you consider all that's coming out about concussive injuries. |
What is coming out on concussive injuries? |
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cheesefrysamurai
Purple Belt
Joined: 06 Mar 2013
Posts: 502
Location: New Jersey
Styles: Okinawan Goju Ryu
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| Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Alan Armstrong wrote: |
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I find this practice offensive. And my dojo is very physical.
I wouldn't train there.
Especially when you consider all that's coming out about concussive injuries. |
What is coming out on concussive injuries? |
I've seen some articles come out fairly recently regarding this. I'll try to find some.
At my dojo we do pretty significant body, arm and leg conditioning. You can't condition the head.
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JR 137
Black Belt
Joined: 10 May 2015
Posts: 2442
Location: In the dojo
Styles: Seido Juku
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| Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| cheesefrysamurai wrote: |
| Alan Armstrong wrote: |
| cheesefrysamurai wrote: |
I find this practice offensive. And my dojo is very physical.
I wouldn't train there.
Especially when you consider all that's coming out about concussive injuries. |
What is coming out on concussive injuries? |
I've seen some articles come out fairly recently regarding this. I'll try to find some.
At my dojo we do pretty significant body, arm and leg conditioning. You can't condition the head. |
The more you "condition" the head, the more susceptible to concussions. |
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 30188
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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| JR 137 wrote: |
| cheesefrysamurai wrote: |
| Alan Armstrong wrote: |
| cheesefrysamurai wrote: |
I find this practice offensive. And my dojo is very physical.
I wouldn't train there.
Especially when you consider all that's coming out about concussive injuries. |
What is coming out on concussive injuries? |
I've seen some articles come out fairly recently regarding this. I'll try to find some.
At my dojo we do pretty significant body, arm and leg conditioning. You can't condition the head. |
The more you "condition" the head, the more susceptible to concussions. |
Yes, very true. I think cheesefrysamurai is leaning towards the CTE studies that have come out more recently, especially those related to heavy contact in the NFL, and how those repeated concussive events affect those later on in life. Its been quite the conversation in the National Football League.
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Alan Armstrong
Black Belt
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Studies show that concussions lead to depression, memory lose, sleep deprivation and Parkinson's.
One of the reasons for being on this forum is to keep my mind active. I've had my fair share of head traumas, to feel the need to keep mentally active is important for me, use it or lose it.
Head traumas I believe is something we carry with us throughout our lives, the less times our brains get knocked around the better IMHO |
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