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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DWx wrote:
I watched some "modern pankration" in a tournament this year. Dunno whether it was just the fighters themselves but I can't say I was overly impressed as it just looked like a poorer version of what most mma schools do.

imo its cause simple there is not MMA style
its just an athlete that already does at least 2 MAs and he is especially good at first of the arts he learnt and he fights with other no-relation athlete in just common rules where the pankration is a rounded thingy that trains you on its sub-arts on its own
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MasterPain wrote:
bushido_man96 wrote:
I think MMA today is more refined, just from the evolution of the style over the last 20 plus years.


Pankration developed for a long time in ancient times, we've had 20 years. i'll bet they were more refined then than you imagine.


You are probably right. I may have misled; I wasn't trying to make ancient Pankration appear to be a rudimentary style or anything like that. I just think that with today's training methods for both fighting and supplemental health, such as cardio and strength, that it is likely more refined as a style now. Just my thoughts, though.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ancient greek boxing was like "upper-muay thai" they had "semi-contant" leather gloves (i always confuse contant and semi contact so in case i dont say the correct i mean the mini gloves not the boxing) and ANY kind of hand strike were allowed except finger to eye attacks
In pankration it is stated by history stuff it was a combo in boxing and wrestling but it is also stated it had NO rules (even eye finger hits), so i think it is safe to assume for the use of legs and below waist holds, it was practically "get him how ever u want" so that was my point in comparison
The pankration now HAS rules but very limited, but so is MMA.
My point is MMA is more interesting.-Why? cause its not one discipline , each player is good at different things and specialises in them while he is good at other stuff too, where in pankration which is ONE discipline i could say fighters are trained to both things ,grapple and strike, so it is very balanced=boring
just wanted to check to other people views in differense not to say which is better
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