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Straight Blast
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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2005 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TriStateTerror wrote:
I am looking more for a grappling art that I could eventually use in competition. I figure I will look more towards BJJ and arts of that nature. Plus I just have a bad feeling about this academy ever since I witnessed the so-called effects of my Sensei's so-called energy.

Its good your not staying at that dojo.It seems the sensei there believes hes got the powers like Pootie Tangs belt
If you cant find a BJJ school,ju jutsu or judo would be a great grappling style that has competition.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe someone could use energy to knock people without touching them.
but I can almost definitely tell you that you wont learn how to do that from a Jujitsu school.
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Sam
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also - what energy... whered it come from... just interested...
Also agreeing about the Jujitsu school, dont think they really concentrate on Chi / energy that much.
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Cobosan
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont know about the KOs being performed across a larger distance but close range touchless KOs can be done ( seen it being perfomered by my sensei who is in no way a con ). But its absolutely useless in real life combat. Still that doesnt mean it cant be done.
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Sam
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive never seen nor believe in "touchless KOs"... any counter example are appreciated.
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kiba no chi
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive seen some videos of 'remote knockouts' one was a kiai wich we know is real and then two others just had the guy putting his hands up to the other guy and he fell... i dont know weather it was a hoax or not but you can decide for yourselves, dan (A.K.A. Thread's of Fate) has them, ill try and get him to post them later...
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Akemoshi
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I've learned over the past years of studying Dim-Mak, its very possible to do several "no hit knock outs" throughout certain points in the body. one of the first you would learn through many, many years of studying and training is a sort-of palm strike, with your arm slightly altered, and its a strike to the temple (which is GB point 3 in the traditional chinese chart). the strike doesn't ever touch the person but it has deadly side effects. anything from a KO to Death, or delayed Death.
My advice is this: ask your sensei how he does this "no hit knock out", just tell him you'd like to check into it, be honest with him and let him know you dont believe its possible. check into whatever he says, then make decisions. btw, im with Kajukenbopr on this one too.. i dont see a jujitsu sensei teaching no hit knock outs.
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ninjanurse
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I have been the recipient of anothers chi and have felt it's presence in the dojo but I have never seen it knock someone out. I have also heard many make great claims about their abilities. Take everything with a grain of salt and make your judgements based on personal experience.



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Clarence
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, there is a way he could knock some one down. He could have compact his ki into a small area. And sent it out and it felt like possibly a punch.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://videos.subfighter.com/highlights/other/Dimmak%20Death%20Touch%20Fraud.wmv

done by fox news on toucheless knock outs and light touch knock outs. The instructor is based out in chicago. I thought it was funny clip over all for several reasons.
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