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muaythaidm
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| Does anybody know of any arts that started in Europe? I think Savate did, any others? |
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Harpoon
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| I know theirs grecoroman wrestling, but other than that I dont think there are. There is something that medeival knights used which involved grappling along with sword play, but that doesn't really apply. In Europe when it came to fighting it was all about having something with a sharp edge with you. |
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Joecooke007
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uhhh Russian NO Holds Barred??? 
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Tobias_Reece
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HMMMMM, European martial arts, eh?
Savate - the french kicking art
Fencing - developed somewhere in europe
SAMBO - Russian martial art
Krav Maga - Developed in Isreali, I think
There are some more, but I cant think of them off the top of my head.
Hope this helps
Tobias
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KickChick
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2002 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Boxing, wrestling in all of it's european forms incl. Savate (French foot boxing, Sombo, Pankration,Faction Fighting used by the Irish, German, English, Finnish & Italian Fencing, Russian (ROSS)/Slavic MA, Rapier, Longsword, Broadsword, historical European combat grappling and dagger systems. There are many lost arts of unarmed combat dagger fighting and close-quarters sword combat as they were practiced throughout Europe centuries ago.
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SaiFightsMS
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During Midievel times many unique and interesting looking weapons were developed in Europe.
And how about chain mail? They did some unique armour work.
As well as what they called "quarterstaff".
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Location: Birmingham, England
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i understand that "the system" or "systema"
was developed in russia,
it involves alot of grappling and hardcore street defense, similar to bjj
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YODA
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I have a book written in the 1599 by an Englishman called George Silver that deals with sword, sword & buckler, sword & dagger, staff, battle axe, pike, forest bill etc etc.... It also covers "Closings, Gripes & Wrastlings". Here's a section (Very hard to read the Olde English - all the s's are f's etc...)
"...... there is no manner of teaching comparable to the old ancient teaching, that is, first their quarters, then their wardes, blowes, thrusts, and breaking of thrusts, then their Closes and Gripes, striking with the hilts, Daggers, Bucklers, Wrastlings, striking with the foote or knee in the Coddes, and all these are safely defended by learning perfectly the of the Gripes."
He also mentions ".... hitting with the knee in the Coddes, throwing down & stamping on the loins"
Pretty good stuff considering that was 403 years ago! 
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SaiFightsMS
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Sounds like a really cool book Yoda.
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bustr
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on the post.
