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lupus yonderboy
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:23 am    Post subject: Fight Ability Testing - How do you guys test? Reply with quote

Hi there. I'm just curious how you guys typically test? Is fighting involved, and if so, what are the limits and rules on the fighting for your test?

In BJJ, they typically test by fighting with one another. When a student can "hang" with other guys of the next belt level, he can expect to become that belt very soon.

How do you guys do it? I'm curious to all responses.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From brown belt above we have to do 3 minutes of kumite for each grade plus ippon sparring. With the kumite we must score at least once but the main aim is to score 3. Of course my sensei is aware that some of us are better than other, he just expects that a student at least TRY to score if they cant get a point.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At our dojo, we all have to spar for about a minute with one partner, and then we rotate until we've all sparred with every other student. We're all lower ranks, so there's no shots to the head allowed, no elbow strikes or any other hard core stuff.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For my last testing had to do straight sparring against every other person testing. Then had to do 3-onto-1 sparring a couple of times. I understand now that we have to arrange a choreographed (realistic) fight to demonstrate applications and such.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tests proceduse , is different in all styles. Mostly there is a fighting and a kata techniques.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

last place that I did striking at was a SBGi, and most of the time it was light sparring for warming up and med contact sparring from there. Grappling is done through randori which is usually done from medium to full intensity/resistance.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Varies by belt for us.

At the lower levels they have to demostrate proficiency with several self defense movments. There is a spontaneous componant to these even when testing for yellow belt. They also have to deomstre basic movement and strinking.

Sparring is involved at every level, even white to yellow. Free grappling is expected at around green (even though everyone is rolling already, that's where we genrally expect people to have a certain level of comfort).

As one goes up, expect weapons defenses, weapon use, more sparring and grappling and the integration of all fo the above. From purple up, pretty much all self-defense is expected to be spontaneous in nature to randomized attacks. Multiple attackers and such also start to come into play.

For black belt, all of the above plus an hour of sparring plus skill demonstration. This includes stand up, takedown, grapping, MMA. Additionally, weapons sparring is inclused as is the finale of multiple opponant sparrring. It's an enduro beat down by the end.

We don't test people unless we're sure they're gonna pass. They test when they're ready. Pretty much it goes with what was said above about "hanging" with the guys a belt rank above them. We're a spar heavy system, so when someone is going toe to toe with us it's a pretty clear indicator that they're ready.

For me personally, I don't even run a test until purple belt. Until then, it's kind of a verbal "Yeah, you're a (insert color here) belt. Congrats."

I do have guys that are just interested in MMA type stuff, I don't rank them in my primary art. That distiction I still keep seperate for those guys who want to learn the complete system.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For us, there's the basic tecnhiques, katas, fitness tests and sparring. We spar either someone with a belt higher, or if there is none, someone of the same belt. We have assistants (1-2dans) but they don't spar anyone for the tests.

For self-defence, we are told to do various techniques on someone at the sensei's command. As the higher the belt is, the more techniques. Then there's also a fitness test and sparring, both goju-ryu style, and for the higher belts, more sparring with some contact including to the legs, shins, and can use knees but no elbows to the face.

The sparring lasts longer as the belt is higher.
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