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Hawkmoon
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 Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:25 am Post subject: |
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| AdamKralic wrote: |
My two cents is that one can talk one out of sticky situations 99/100.
If it's a robbery...I'd give them what they wanted w/o hesitation while explaining that I probably don't have a whole lot more than they do to be honest.
In the instance where it looks like it'll all go to shiite no matter what? I'd hope to be faster than them. If I move first...odds are in my favor. |
Agreed!
Top post!
there is no amount of money or volume of material possessions that make giving your life for worth while.
Both things can be got back the next day, week, month.
That life token once used, that's it game over!
Defending you and yours in a situation that is clearly going to end badly for some one...make sure there is no grey area in your next actions or the results of your actions!
As the saying goes don't take a knife to a gun fight.
But then it's better to not take weapon at all! .... less to explain the next day!
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
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Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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| Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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I disagree that the best defense against an attack is a counter attack. I think the best defense is to strike pre-emptively, and continuously evaluate the situation and continue to attack if needed, or try to escape.
Your "in-and-out," "in-and-down," and "in-and-thru" classifications are interesting.
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Hawkmoon
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| Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:13 am Post subject: |
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Thanks!
I'm of the opinion that no one should ever get into such a situation, 'if' it becomes the only option left then commit..period.
One of you is going to be hurt, so make sure to fully commit because once that roller-coaster ride starts you can't get off until the end, the other person already wants to ride to the end, they started the situation, they committed!
Make sure you have a clear mind to that end.
You didn't want it, its not your fault, so end it! If you are going to do that ensure there is no pride in the action.
Hurting the other person for the sake of hurting them...when was that ever fun?
When was that ever civilized?
when was that ever right?
End it move on, have no grey areas to explain.
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bushido_man96
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| Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Many think that if they are attacked, then they have free reign to do what every they want to the person who attacked, when in fact, this is not the case, and there is a point where you can cross a line from self-defense into aggressor, and be held liable for it, as well.
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Hawkmoon
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| Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:57 am Post subject: |
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Yes, spot on!
Its amazing how the aggressor suddenly becomes a model citizen when they are getting beat!
Take no pride in your action, have no grey area to explain!
'When' they submit..that's it it's over, no need to go on.
That's a grey area you don't want or need, that's the area LAW will take over and you will suddenly find you are the bad guy in this situation......
In competition 'Yami' (means stop) make sure you do, no need to push onwards, 'Chui' and potentially 'shikkaku' are what you will receive.....as the saying goes...stop means stop.
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yamesu
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This is interesting, and while I agree with some of what you are saying, I want to add that this carries over to RBSD largely too.
Why? Because there is no pressure testing. No tests when the actual threat of being seriously hurt by someone who wants to injure you being done. No learning to act under adrenaline dumps.
To me, and many others who face sticky situations on a daily basis, this is why practicing in a full contact environment is the only way.
Learning nice sequences where "if they do this, then you do this" simply does not work unless pressure tested against someone really trying to hurt you.
I think that about sums it up for all styles IMO.
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Hawkmoon
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| Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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Your right!
Please don't take this comment on it's own! That comment coming from me does so with a bunch other bits and bobs that make up a fuller mind set.
Sure if you must go that far, as I say do so, I then add take no pride.
I've said before fight the man not the grade
I also said you don't have to go that way in the first place.
As I have said consider how other's will view you when the dust settles.
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yamesu
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Sorry Hawkmoon, I was addressing the OP, didnt mean to offend!
I do agree that one can, most of the time, not go that way in the first place! Its about social and environmental awareness.
However, for the small minority (some of whom are on here) such as those working in Law Enforcement, it is an unavoidable occupational hazard.
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Hawkmoon
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Sorry Hawkmoon, I was addressing the OP, didnt mean to offend!
I do agree that one can, most of the time, not go that way in the first place! Its about social and environmental awareness.
However, for the small minority (some of whom are on here) such as those working in Law Enforcement, it is an unavoidable occupational hazard. |
No no were good no offence was taken! 
I wasn't sure who you referred to so I thought I'd add a little validity to the 'stark' view that my comment suggests when presented on its own! 
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on the post.
