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KNOCKuOUT
Orange Belt
Joined: 30 Mar 2007
Posts: 136
Location: Fords, New Jersey
Styles: Kenpo, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
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 Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject: first throws of judo? |
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| What are typically the first couple of thows a judoka needs to learn to promote? Or maybe not necessarily needs to promote but is taught? |
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nine_weapons
Orange Belt
Joined: 31 Jul 2007
Posts: 155
Styles: muay thai, judo, bjj
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:07 am Post subject: |
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o goshi
o soto gari
ippon seionage
de ashi barai
hiza guruma
sasae tsuri komi ashi
why are you asking this here though? If you are training judo somewhere, your coach will tell you. If you aren't training judo and are planning on starting soon, then knowing will not help you advance faster, as you will still need the proper number of points. |
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KNOCKuOUT
Orange Belt
Joined: 30 Mar 2007
Posts: 136
Location: Fords, New Jersey
Styles: Kenpo, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm not training in judo yet, and would just like to atleast learn some throws on my own free time for now. I wasn't expecting knowing any of the throws to help me advance any quicker at all. But after looking at a long list of judo throws, I want to learn throws on my own and ones that are typically taught in the beginning. I wasn't sure which ones would be good to start with. Also, even if I wasn't planning on training in judo, it's still good to know about the art and some of its cirriculum. |
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lordtariel
Black Belt
Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Posts: 1709
Location: Oregon
Styles: (Past)Judo, Yang Family Tai Chi, (Current)Shito-Ryu Karate, Kobudo(Tonfajitsu)
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:15 am Post subject: |
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| nine_weapons wrote: |
| sasae tsurikomi ashi |
Took me four months before I could pronounce that when I started Judo. 
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lordtariel
Black Belt
Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Posts: 1709
Location: Oregon
Styles: (Past)Judo, Yang Family Tai Chi, (Current)Shito-Ryu Karate, Kobudo(Tonfajitsu)
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:24 am Post subject: |
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| KNOCKuOUT wrote: |
| I'm not training in judo yet, and would just like to atleast learn some throws on my own free time for now. I wasn't expecting knowing any of the throws to help me advance any quicker at all. But after looking at a long list of judo throws, I want to learn throws on my own and ones that are typically taught in the beginning. I wasn't sure which ones would be good to start with. Also, even if I wasn't planning on training in judo, it's still good to know about the art and some of its cirriculum. |
It's kind of difficult to learn throws on your own. You really need a partner. And I recommend against it unless your partner knows what he's doing.
In fact, you may be better served learning how to fall(front, back, side and roll) before taking judo than learning the throws.(Of course you may already know how to) In my school, you weren't allowed to proceed to anything until you had falling down cold.
If you are interested in the throws though, there are plenty of great videos and animations out there thought to give you an idea of how it's done.
Also, if you're going to take judo I recommend picking up a copy of Kodokan Judo by Jigoro Kano. It's virtually the Judo bible.
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lordtariel
Black Belt
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Location: Oregon
Styles: (Past)Judo, Yang Family Tai Chi, (Current)Shito-Ryu Karate, Kobudo(Tonfajitsu)
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I just noticed that you take BJJ as well so you probably already know how to fall. Never mind. 
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nine_weapons
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Joined: 31 Jul 2007
Posts: 155
Styles: muay thai, judo, bjj
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| KNOCKuOUT wrote: |
| I'm not training in judo yet, and would just like to atleast learn some throws on my own free time for now. I wasn't expecting knowing any of the throws to help me advance any quicker at all. But after looking at a long list of judo throws, I want to learn throws on my own and ones that are typically taught in the beginning. I wasn't sure which ones would be good to start with. Also, even if I wasn't planning on training in judo, it's still good to know about the art and some of its cirriculum. |
In all honesty, that is a bad idea. there are lots of nuances in footowrk, grabbing, etc. when it comes to throwing and grappling in general, as you should know, since you train bjj. If you ingrain incorrect technique into your "muscle memory" it will be harder to correct. My advice would be to just wait. when you start training, they will show you. If you aren't trying to hurry and advance, then it doesn't matter how many throws there are or how long it takes to learn them, right? |
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KNOCKuOUT
Orange Belt
Joined: 30 Mar 2007
Posts: 136
Location: Fords, New Jersey
Styles: Kenpo, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
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| Yea, I guess maybe I just got a little over anxious. Thanks for your thoughts guys. Anyway, my bjj teacher actually showed us some judo throws in my last class. They are difficult to get good form on. I can defintely see why it is worth it to wait till I have the proper instruction. Even though I can't do the throws to 100% yet, it is still nice to know what I'm in for. Can't wait to start. |
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marie curie
KF Sempai
Joined: 18 Oct 2005
Posts: 1019
Location: PA, USA
Styles: Ko Sutemi Seiei Kan Karate, Kajukenbo, Kodokan Judo, Gracie Barra Jiu-Jitsu, Olympic Tae Kwon Doe
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| nine_weapons wrote: |
o goshi
o soto gari
ippon seionage
de ashi barai
hiza guruma
sasae tsuri komi ashi
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these are about the same few that we learn
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lordtariel
Black Belt
Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Posts: 1709
Location: Oregon
Styles: (Past)Judo, Yang Family Tai Chi, (Current)Shito-Ryu Karate, Kobudo(Tonfajitsu)
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| marie curie wrote: |
| nine_weapons wrote: |
o goshi
o soto gari
ippon seionage
de ashi barai
hiza guruma
sasae tsuri komi ashi
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these are about the same few that we learn |
We actually threw in morote seionage as well as ippon seionage(2 handed shoulder throw vs 1 handed) Same concept though.
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on the post.
