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fujita san
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Joined: 14 May 2005
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Location: CHICAGO,IL
Styles: karate,kung fu,tae kwon do, ninjitsu,and judo
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 Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 7:41 pm Post subject: flips |
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| are flips and arial manuvers used in real fights on the street or are the hazardous |
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monkeygirl
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Joined: 22 Feb 2002
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Location: Middle-of-Nowhere, Pennsylvania
Styles: Tae Kwon Do
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 9:50 am Post subject: |
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I'm going to move this to the Strategies and Tactics forum.
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Kaminari
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Joined: 11 Dec 2004
Posts: 323
Styles: Seito Shito-Ryu Karate
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Flips? Not likely to be useful in a street fight. I can't see any use in them aside from looking cool. Although, one of my instructors from a previous dojo I attended did say he was able to perform a flip over a tall obstacle (couldn't remember what it was) when running from a big dog. Otherwise, stick to the ground in fights, and you'll be fine. |
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wu baitian
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Joined: 26 May 2005
Posts: 58
Location: antwerp (belgium)
Styles: baji quan, tantui, sanda
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 6:03 am Post subject: |
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just taking a few stept back will have the same effect as a flip, and will keep your ballance
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JusticeZero
Green Belt
Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 487
Location: Melbourne, AU
Styles: Capoeira Angola
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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Tumbling? Sure, if you know how to apply it. I know plenty of ways to turn a tumble into an attack. If it isn't part of your art and standard tactics, probably not so handy. Most people this is not part of your art.
Aerials? No. Touch someone in the air in a way other than they expect and they drop crashing to the floor, often injuring themself. I have yet to hear a convincing reason why one would do it.
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Sam
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Posts: 1746
Styles: ITF TKD, Wu Shu, Muay Thai
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| You cant adjust movement direction in the air so generally a bad idea.... |
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Tyrant General
White Belt
Joined: 10 May 2005
Posts: 24
Location: Vegas
Styles: Kick Boxing, Boxing, Karate,Wrestling
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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fliping in a fight?
try it while sparring against one of your friends. you'll notice that it takes alot more energy out of you then just simply moving into a diffrent position
heres another thing, depending on the flip you do you lose site of your opponent just for a little bit. if he moved in a diffrent area while your flipping around he can catch you of guard.
ohh and i should mention that if you do a flip in a fight you can injure yourself if you do the flip wrong.
i say its a major hazard unless someone can prove me otherwise
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JusticeZero
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Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 487
Location: Melbourne, AU
Styles: Capoeira Angola
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| Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 8:32 am Post subject: |
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I do flip-like movements, I don't lose sight of my target, I can usually put a good kick or two into it which are, and I end in places I couldn't as easily have reached on foot. I'm used to having people kick at me when I do them. Mind you, modern handsprings are a no-go because I have to be able to stop the movement in between starting it and committing my weight to my hands; full modern flips are an aerial and aerials are suicide.
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Tyrant General
White Belt
Joined: 10 May 2005
Posts: 24
Location: Vegas
Styles: Kick Boxing, Boxing, Karate,Wrestling
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I only said "depending on the flip you do"
by the way. you know any good capoeira dojos in vegas? i'm thinking of doing that type fighting style.
It looks enlightening
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JusticeZero
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Joined: 02 Apr 2005
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Location: Melbourne, AU
Styles: Capoeira Angola
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None in my art that i've heard of. Probably there's one in some style of Capoeira, but i'm not aware of them. (Capoeira, as a term, isn't any more descriptive than a term such as Jujutsu, Karate, or the like. There's what amounts to ryus and such divided all over the place.)
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on the post.
