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ninjanurse
KF Sensei


Joined: 13 Feb 2003
Posts: 3989
Location: Upstate NY
Styles: TKD;Shotokan;JuJitsu;Tai Ji
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2003 7:38 am Post subject: |
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Ignorance.
 _________________ "A Black Belt is only the beginning."
Heidi-A student of the arts
Tae Kwon Do,Shotokan,JuJitsu,TaiJi |
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gheinisch
KF VIP

Joined: 09 Jan 2003
Posts: 2119
Location: Newnan, Georgia
Styles: Hon-Shin-Do - Shodan
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2003 9:40 am Post subject: |
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Philosophy 101
"Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered, those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid. Thus the wise win before they fight, while the ignorant fight to win."
-Zhuge- |
I agree with what you say,but I do have to question this,don't you mean the ignorant fight to lose?I don't find anything ignorant about wanting to win.
Sometimes a person has no choice but to fight in order to defend themselves and I'd rather win then get the crap kicked out of me.It would be stupid to fight and want to lose,in that case why even bother defending yourself? |
Hello MT,
It's not my quote but one from Zhuge Liang, what I think the writer is saying is that those who acquire knowledge and skills realize that violence is meaningless while those who don't will fight all their lives never achieving true inner peace. Kinda deep huh?
IMHO
Greg _________________ "If your hand goes forth withhold your temper"
"If your temper goes forth withold your hand"
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ZeRo
Black Belt

Joined: 03 Apr 2002
Posts: 2571
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2003 9:55 am Post subject: |
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| coz its fun. its the best buzz in the world. me and some mates used to meet up and just fight for the hell of it. the adnrenaline rush is amazing. |
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SoulAssassin
Orange Belt

Joined: 06 Mar 2003
Posts: 131
Location: Pennsylvania
Styles: MMA
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2003 10:41 am Post subject: |
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This is a broad topic, for there are many reasons why people fight, and you have to think of the situation.
I grew up in a decent neighborhood but stupid me decided to turn to the streets. We fought for every reason ranging from, respect, bad mood, being looked at wrong, people saying 'things' to us etc.. We were basiclly the hoodlums, gangs etc...
People have things wrong with them, alcoholism, chemical inbalances with the brain (bi-polar), people do to many drugs and it just turns people into sauvages and well they fight.. Its not the answer, but it will never be stopped. People just have to try an calm down a bit, were in bad times now.. Most people arm themselves with weapons (guns etc..) normal everyday fist fights turn into gang wars, 10 on 1 or someone getting shot.. Its not worth to fight outside the dojo or tournys anymore.
I learned the hardway. Bestfriend of mine died 3 months ago in a street fight. It was aranged and people placed money on it, he started to win and got jumped by 5 more people and then a blackbelt studying some sort of art ground fighting broke his neck and killed him on the spot.
I never fought for money, I fought for stupid reasons and I now see that. Though a tragic had to widen my eyes.. |
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SaiFightsMS
KF VIP

Joined: 28 Oct 2001
Posts: 6322
Location: Ohio
Styles: Shotokan, Shorin Ryu, Shi-to Ryu
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2003 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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Everyone please just read the last post and think about it.
It was a very powerful statement. I don't think there is anything anyone can say to improve upon it. And it would be terrible to demean such an incredible post. Just read it and think about what the guy has to say. |
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