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ps1
Black Belt
Joined: 09 Nov 2004
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Location: NE Ohio
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| That is true, but you need to keep the knife from cutting you first. If you can debilitate the attacker, then you may accomplish that goal. However, you want to keep that knife from moving too much, I think. |
I agree. Control the most dangerous weapon and then you can worry about taking out vital areas. If you are busy trying to use eye jabs and striking the throat (the groin isn't likely to do alot in these situations), the opponent is likely to be busy stabbing you. Gain some sort of control over the weapon, then hit they eyes or throat and so on.
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ps1
Black Belt
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Location: NE Ohio
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To answer the post, try to look it up on the Department of Justice website. I would find it hard to believe that many posters here have been in 100 conflicts. So it would be a guess at very best. That wouldn't help you.
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rayjag
Yellow Belt
Joined: 08 Apr 2007
Posts: 30
Location: Northern Virginia
Styles: Tae Kwon Doe
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That is true, but you need to keep the knife from cutting you first. If you can debilitate the attacker, then you may accomplish that goal. However, you want to keep that knife from moving too much, I think.. |
One of my old instructors allways said to gain contol of the head of the snake.[/quote] |
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st0ut
White Belt
Joined: 12 May 2008
Posts: 13
Location: New England
Styles: Sholin Kenpo Karate
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Ummm the way i was taught...
Deadly force, that force which a person know or whish he should know has a risk of causing death or serious bodily harm. It use is justified on in the following manner:
self defence
defence of others.
property involving national security
property not involving national security but inherently dangerous to others.
Upon lawful order
dang i cant remember the other 2
Serious bodily harm is breaking of bone mainming or disfiguring
So even your non lethal strikes are using deadly force.
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Taylor
Yellow Belt
Joined: 25 Apr 2008
Posts: 35
Styles: Tae Kuk Mu Sul, Aikido.
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This is an issue that many people have confused and lost their lives in prison as a result.
A District Attorney in the United States can decided to press manslaughter charges for ANY death, which are not murder charges, even if lethal force is used for the purposes of 'self-defense' and even if the opponent is carrying a weapon and you are not. There are many standards that play into 'self-defense' which differs in each state and sometimes county, and the distinction between 'self-defense' and manslaughter actually has a lot of grey areas. The police are required to DILIGENTLY investigate 'wrongful' death, and even if the police are on your side, this kind of situation can end up blowing up in your face.
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st0ut
White Belt
Joined: 12 May 2008
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Location: New England
Styles: Sholin Kenpo Karate
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you are absoluty correct.
my statement came after years of being trained with that dogma.
My point was that even if you break a bone i.e. cheek bone that can be considered deadly force.
So any technique that you use has the posibility of being classified as deadly force.
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Bushido-Ruach
Yellow Belt
Joined: 03 Mar 2008
Posts: 69
Location: California
Styles: Self-defense MMA
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This may be helpful, I found this web site but I don't know exactly how to paste it in here....so here goes anyway...
www.ittendojo.org/articles/general-4.htm
I have read most of it and it sound like the author knows what he's talking about...OK, I just clicked on the link to make sure I did it right and it worked, then I finished reading the whole article. It is very well articulated and it definitely has some wisdom in there, ya'll should check it out.
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
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Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, and I research Medieval Combat
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That is a link that I think we can all use. Thanks, Bushido-Ruach.
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on the post.
