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Do you prefer grappling or stand up sparring
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grappling |
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75% |
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stand up sparring |
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25% |
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a_ninja
Orange Belt
Joined: 18 Dec 2006
Posts: 174
Location: Laurel, Mississippi
Styles: Green belt in shotokan karte, and know a little about alot of other styles, but not from schools such as kung fu, muay thai, tai kwon do, and weapons
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 Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:50 pm Post subject: Grappling |
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Well i was in karate last night and our instructor started to teach us some grappling techniques and i really enjoyed, i was the second best there and it just came to me natural. Do you guys know of any methods that could better improve my grappling, besides just grappling with other people?
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PSBN Doug
KF VIP
Joined: 04 Nov 2001
Posts: 3754
Location: Houston, TX
Styles: Kuk Sool Won
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I can't answer your poll, because I like a combination of both.
Another thread talked about sources of on-line instruction for ground techniques. I've been increasing my knowledge with those and trying them out when rolling with others.
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ps1
Black Belt
Joined: 09 Nov 2004
Posts: 1705
Location: NE Ohio
Styles: Chuan Fa, Shotokan, JJJ, BJJ
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| Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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I really love both. I picked grappling, but feel very torn. I just notice that I tend to clinch up if it's allowed by the rules.
As far as getting better goes...the most efficent way is to join a school that teaches BJJ, Judo, wrestling, or submission grappling. You can to to you-tube and look for techniques if you have no other options. I would suggest the following techniques for starters.
-From Guard: Armbar, triangle choke, omaplata, cross choke, guillotine, kimora, scissor sweep, elevator sweep, double ankle sweep and helicopter sweep.
-A few was to pass the guard and half guard (anyone telling you to just dig your forearms into the pressure points in the thigh is doing what we call "Crappling." Don't fall for that, the method should be biomechanical, not pain compliance.)
-From Side control: pinning techniques, kimora, armbar, obtain the mount, a few basic chokes
-From Mount: Maintain the position, Cross Choke, armbar, kimora, moving from mount to side control
-Escaping from the bottom of mount, side control, and back mount
-Obtaining the back mount from side control and when the opponent "turtles."
-From back mount: sliding collar choke, rear naked choke
Once you are skilled at performing, applying, teaching, and understanding why the techniques work, you will likely be around the blue belt level. The important part is to practice slowly, and step by step. Of course I don't need to point out that practice without proper instruction is dangerous and not advisable. But if you do, just focus on being careful.
Good Luck.
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dete
Orange Belt
Joined: 07 Oct 2007
Posts: 138
Location: gotham city
Styles: full contact Karate and grappling
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| Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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I'm old school man,
time wise I'd say 4 yrs. at a BJJ school = blue belt.
and that doesn't include, your understanding of the style,
how you represent the style, your level of skill, willingness to learn.
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ps1
Black Belt
Joined: 09 Nov 2004
Posts: 1705
Location: NE Ohio
Styles: Chuan Fa, Shotokan, JJJ, BJJ
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:55 am Post subject: |
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I'm old school man,
time wise I'd say 4 yrs. at a BJJ school = blue belt.
and that doesn't include, your understanding of the style,
how you represent the style, your level of skill, willingness to learn. |
In all honesty it only takes about 1 to 2 years to earn blue in most BJJ schools. Another 3 to purple, 3 more to brown and 3 more to black. Of course those are just averages. But you'll see by adding them up that it's still 10 to 11 years to black, on average. Clearly, however, skill level and comprehension are more important than time.
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Rainbow_Warrior
Blue Belt
Joined: 01 Oct 2006
Posts: 349
Styles: Now : MMA/luta livre/Thai , before :Kung fu,kick boxing , boxing, amateur wrestling
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I think that most of the people will pick grappling in the grappling sub forum 
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dete
Orange Belt
Joined: 07 Oct 2007
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Location: gotham city
Styles: full contact Karate and grappling
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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| ps1 wrote: |
In all honesty it only takes about 1 to 2 years to earn blue in most BJJ schools. |
like I said, I'm old school. 
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ps1
Black Belt
Joined: 09 Nov 2004
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Location: NE Ohio
Styles: Chuan Fa, Shotokan, JJJ, BJJ
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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| ps1 wrote: |
In all honesty it only takes about 1 to 2 years to earn blue in most BJJ schools. |
like I said, I'm old school. |
But that's not old school. I train under Pedro Sauer...direct student of Helio and Rickson Gracie. That's the way it's always been. As far as rank goes, blue belt is the easiest to attain. It really shouldn't take 4 years unless you only train like, once a week.
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gzk
Blue Belt
Joined: 02 Feb 2007
Posts: 278
Styles: Shootfighting, BJJ
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I would agree that it shouldn't take 4 years to get to blue belt, but I would say that your average BJJ guy who's been training for 4 years is probably still a blue belt, maybe just about ready for purple. A good blue belt, anyway.
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marie curie
KF Sempai
Joined: 18 Oct 2005
Posts: 1020
Location: PA, USA
Styles: Ko Sutemi Seiei Kan Karate, Kajukenbo, Kodokan Judo, Gracie Barra Jiu-Jitsu, Olympic Tae Kwon Doe
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That's really a "what mood am I in" sort of thing for me. I love standing up and pounding people if I'm going for that, but sometimes its fun to play on the ground.
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on the post.
