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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
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Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo,Hapkido, SCA Combat, and I research Medieval Combat
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That is excellent stuff, guys. I remember reading in the books that I have on BJJ that the instructors talk a lot about building the combinations. Getting a good handle on one move, like the guillotine, and forcing people to respect it, would be a good way to facilitate combinations training, right?
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Adonis
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| Usually built off set ups. Where they defend one move, and you play off there defense to go for another, ect, ect.... |
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ps1
Black Belt
Joined: 09 Nov 2004
Posts: 1705
Location: NE Ohio
Styles: Chuan Fa, Shotokan, JJJ, BJJ
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Better than Chess:)
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Adonis
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| Yeah thats true, its hard to get a work out in while playing chess. lol! |
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ps1
Black Belt
Joined: 09 Nov 2004
Posts: 1705
Location: NE Ohio
Styles: Chuan Fa, Shotokan, JJJ, BJJ
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| Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah thats true, its hard to get a work out in while playing chess. lol! |
Ha!
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Rainbow_Warrior
Blue Belt
Joined: 01 Oct 2006
Posts: 349
Styles: Now : MMA/luta livre/Thai , before :Kung fu,kick boxing , boxing, amateur wrestling
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well.... I couldnt try saturday cuz my head instructor was teaching an instructor course in the place we train  but tomorrow morning im going to train and try to use guillotine in other ways....also is good advice that one about not using guillotine against unskilled guys.......
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glockmeister
Green Belt
Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Posts: 465
Location: Pa
Styles: Haganah, Krav Maga, JKD, Kickboxing,BJJ, Judo
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I used to have quite a bit of success with that submission. However, as your opponents get more experience, they know to defend against it. Remember, if you always go only for your so-called "bread and butter" move, you don't improve on many other techniques, so sometimes you should drop it from your arsenal and use only submissions you need practice on.
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Adonis
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I learned a interesting move off of the, Kimura, timing sweep, Guillotine combo.
Where they defend the kimura by sitting back, so I place my hand out and scoot out using my hand that is over hooking the arm for the kimura to wrap between my opponents leg, I scoot out to the side to take the back. Seems like an omoplat is there also. Any way I found the move intersting. |
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AndrewGreen
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 20 Aug 2002
Posts: 905
Location: Winnipeg, Canada
Styles: Crazy Penguin Ninjitsu
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It's only "raw" early on, after that people learn to defend the basic version of it and it becomes more technical.
It's a valid technique, and a good one. Most top fighters get really really good at a handful of things, to the point where they can make those things happen to anyone, even when that person knows it's coming.
You do want to try other things to avoid plateauing, but there is nothing wrong with having a favorite attack, as long as you continue to develop it as well.
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Z@CH
Yellow Belt
Joined: 05 Aug 2007
Posts: 27
Location: wdm, ia
Styles: previously TKD, now Kempo
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can someone give me a quick lesson on how to do the Kimura i can never get it.
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on the post.
