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Jkoko
Yellow Belt
Joined: 24 Jan 2007
Posts: 33
Location: Hamilton
Styles: Former:Japanese Karate(Yellow Belt) Starting very soon: Wing Chun / Gung-Fu
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 Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:35 am Post subject: Gung-Fu? Wing Chun? |
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Well, we all know that the late Bruce Lee, who compiled the information, wrote books, and then made Gung-Fu, Formally studied Wing Chun with The late Yip Man. But now comes a time where I have to decide...Gung-Fu..or Wing Chun? I know they are close to each other, but Im looking for a martial art that incoporates self-defense,but also inflicts as much damage as possible on my attacker.There is also a Ninjitsu Dojo nearby that only trains (completely non-competitive), but im not that much of a fit person (I tire easily, but in shape  , im not half-bad), will that effect my training if I enroll into those classes?. Thanks |
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Kajukenbopr
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 18 Jun 2005
Posts: 921
Styles: Kajukenbo - Emperado Method
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| Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:55 am Post subject: |
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real self defense schools will make you train hard to improve your endurance and stamina.
There are hundreds of kung fu styles out there and bruce lee was not the first and is definitely not the last of the famous kung fu practitioners. He was certainly not the "inventor" of eclectic martial arts.
the best way to learn which would be the best for you, you will have to go online and search about the different styles out there and ask the schools what they teach as self defense(a lot of schools out there, including ninjitsu will teach you material that is worthless) so be careful in your reading and how u determine what style is the right for u.
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 12059
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo,Hapkido, SCA Combat, and I research Medieval Combat
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Go to each school, and check each one out. Watch the classes, and then talk to the instructors about what their training goals are. Effectiveness will result more from the instructor and his training methods, as opposed to what style you choose.
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shogeri
Brown Belt
Joined: 16 Jun 2005
Posts: 661
Styles: Instructor in Internal, External, Mixed Styles
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Authentic ninjutsu {Bujinkan} as taught by hatsumi could hardly be thought of as having useless techniques or curriculum.
Now just how applicable is some of it, that remains a good question.
If you want a striking art, then find a non-sport muay thai, or perhaps a chinese boxing {fighting taiji}.
There are many wushu arts that also practice more kicks than punches in case you enjoy that.
There is also Chi'na or Shuai Chiao.
Just a matter of finding your likes and dislikes, and matching that with your physical capabilities.
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NightOwl
KF Sempai
Joined: 08 Dec 2006
Posts: 981
Location: Japan
Styles: This and that, Rookie Judo
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Bujinkan may or may not be authentic (I am going to write an investigative article on the Ninja soon), but it never hurts to visit. Just don't be too bowled over by any claims and keep an eye on how they train.
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nine_weapons
Orange Belt
Joined: 31 Jul 2007
Posts: 155
Styles: muay thai, judo, bjj
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:43 pm Post subject: Re: Gung-Fu? Wing Chun? |
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| Jkoko wrote: |
| Well, we all know that the late Bruce Lee, who compiled the information, wrote books, and then made Gung-Fu, Formally studied Wing Chun with The late Yip Man. But now comes a time where I have to decide...Gung-Fu..or Wing Chun? I know they are close to each other, but Im looking for a martial art that incoporates self-defense,but also inflicts as much damage as possible on my attacker.There is also a Ninjitsu Dojo nearby that only trains (completely non-competitive), but im not that much of a fit person (I tire easily, but in shape , im not half-bad), will that effect my training if I enroll into those classes?. Thanks |
huh? bruce lee made jun fan and jkd - he didn't create gung fu... gung fu and kung fu are one and the same, just as qi and chi are the same and tai chi and taiji are the same - it's dialectual. |
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Rainbow_Warrior
Blue Belt
Joined: 01 Oct 2006
Posts: 349
Styles: Now : MMA/luta livre/Thai , before :Kung fu,kick boxing , boxing, amateur wrestling
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Wing chun IS Kung fu !.. Kung fu is an umbrella term for chinese MA ,
Choy li fat is kung fu , tai chi is kung fu , hun gar is kung fu , mantis is kung fu etc etc etc
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 12059
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo,Hapkido, SCA Combat, and I research Medieval Combat
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| Rainbow_Warrior wrote: |
Wing chun IS Kung fu !.. Kung fu is an umbrella term for chinese MA ,
Choy li fat is kung fu , tai chi is kung fu , hun gar is kung fu , mantis is kung fu etc etc etc |
I didn't think that Tai Chi was a type of Kung Fu, really. On the other hand, doesn't Wushu mean "Martial Arts?"
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Existence_is _suffering
Yellow Belt
Joined: 08 Jul 2007
Posts: 87
Location: Australia
Styles: I have experience in Aikido, Tae Kwon Do, Hapkido
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Tai Chi is apparently really, really effective (If you can find a genuine teacher who isn't just into the "old people" Tai Chi... JUST for health purposes) And yeah, I believe Wushu does mean Martial Art!
As for choosing a style/school, I would actually ask to sit in on a class of each, talk to the people that would be teaching you (remembering that just because someone is the "boss", doesn't mean they will be teaching you) and maybe do a little more research into the styles themselves!
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ying&yang
Purple Belt
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
Posts: 513
Location: melbourne
Styles: JKD , and 15 others
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:39 am Post subject: Re: Gung-Fu? Wing Chun? |
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| Jkoko wrote: |
| Well, we all know that the late Bruce Lee, who compiled the information, wrote books, and then made Gung-Fu, Formally studied Wing Chun with The late Yip Man. But now comes a time where I have to decide...Gung-Fu..or Wing Chun? I know they are close to each other, but Im looking for a martial art that incoporates self-defense,but also inflicts as much damage as possible on my attacker.There is also a Ninjitsu Dojo nearby that only trains (completely non-competitive), but im not that much of a fit person (I tire easily, but in shape , im not half-bad), will that effect my training if I enroll into those classes?. Thanks |
well ive done Nin-jitsu and i think that you need to be good on your feet and move around very quickly if that isn't a problem then go for it!.
Wing Chun ive done also , i say out of the two "wing chun and gung-fu" wing chun is better because of its quicker hand movements and striking
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