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johnnymac
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone out there know the Hakutsuru no Kunemura kata?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnnymac wrote:
Anyone out there know the Hakutsuru no Kunemura kata?

i've seen parts of it , and there is a DVD by Gorge Alexander i just don't feel right buying it and try to learn it from tape , kinda disrespecting my sensei, when the time comes he will teach me, if you got a clip upload it please.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I was wondering about is, is Kunemura No Hakutsuru a real kata? I have been doing some research and I haven't found any reference for it before George Alexander. I talked to my Sensei about this kata and he thinks that it was made up to turn a quick $. Just wondering if anyone knows the history of this kata.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I study the Ryu Kyu Hon Kenpo (Okinawa Kenpo) of Master Seikichi Odo. Hakutsuru kata is part of our system. I am in the process of studying and researching the history of this kata. Will post another reply when I find some solid history and facts.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KenpoDenz wrote:
Hakutsuru kata is part of our system.


Do you know which Hakutsuru kata is in your system? I am kind of keeping tallies now on which flavor of Hakutsuru is in which systems. Thanks bro.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goju-Ryu has it, but it's a really advanced kata
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goju_boi wrote:
Goju-Ryu has it, but it's a really advanced kata


I didn't think you guys had it. I thought your kata stopped at Suprainpei (Perchurin).

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnnymac wrote:
Goju_boi wrote:
Goju-Ryu has it, but it's a really advanced kata


I didn't think you guys had it. I thought your kata stopped at Suprainpei (Perchurin).

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it stops at tensho I think. I asked my sensei if we had it, and he said yes , but it's for advanced people.(just not sure at what level it is learned)
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to information that I have hakutsuru was originally a part of Naha-te and later Goju-ryu. Then, it stopped appearing in Goju-ryu curriculums.

In my style, we have relearned this kata from Shorin-ryu sources and teach it as a part of our system.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isn't naha-te just another name for goju-ryu?
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