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johnnymac
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goju_boi wrote:
isn't naha-te just another name for goju-ryu?


I was under the impression that Naha-Te is an art that isn't practiced anymore. However it was the basis for Goju Ryu. So it was probably similar, but not quite the same.

Naha is a city in Okinawa. From what I learned when I was stationed at Kadena AFB in Okinawa is that pretty much every city had their own Te (hand art) at one time. However only really the more popular ones are still practiced today. That is why you have systems like Shuri Te and Naha Te.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naha-Te was the art practiced in and around the city of Naha. Kanryo Higashionna was a master of Naha-Te.

Higashionna combined the art of Naha-Te with a form of Chinese boxing, thus forming a type of goju school.

Chojun Miyagi was one of Higashionna's most prominent students. He took his master's teachings, reformed it & in the 1920s named it Goju-Ryu after he had studied Chinese Kempo.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Naha-Te


Do you know if it's a valid system? Or if it died out with the birth of Goju. Also do you know the kata's associated with Naha Te?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnnymac wrote:
shinnekodo wrote:
Naha-Te


Do you know if it's a valid system? Or if it died out with the birth of Goju. Also do you know the kata's associated with Naha Te?

John


Naha-te was certainly a valid system just as was Tomari-te and Shuri-te. These systems formed the basis of what is much of karate today. In the case of Naha-te, it came to be known as Shorei-ryu and became the basis for the present day styles of Goju-ryu and Uechi-ryu.

Naha-te kata:
sanchin, saifa, shisochin, seisan, seipai, sanseiru, seiunchin, kururunfa,
suparenpei, hakutsuru

These katas were developed in China and brought to Okinawa by Higashionna, Kanryo in the late 1800s.

tensho This kata was developed by Miyagi, Chojun.

There are 3 other katas associated with Naha-te: sochin, unshu, niseishi. These katas were developed in China and brought to Okinawa by Bushi Sakiyama (ca 1860). Arakaki, Kamadeunchu also taught these 3 katas.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

those katas are all goju katas, showing that naha-te is goju ryu
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wait a minute, eggs, flour and milk are in pancakes as well as sponges.
i guess that makes them both cupcakes.

read this again.

shinnekodo wrote:
Naha-Te was the art practiced in and around the city of Naha. Kanryo Higashionna was a master of Naha-Te.

Higashionna combined the art of Naha-Te with a form of Chinese boxing, thus forming a type of goju school.

Chojun Miyagi was one of Higashionna's most prominent students. He took his master's teachings, reformed it & in the 1920s named it Goju-Ryu after he had studied Chinese Kempo.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh ok,I understand now
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People can 'claim' to teach the matsumura hakutsuru, like this guy.
http://www.amazon.com/Hakutsuru-Secret-White-George-Alexander/dp/B00007MEYT

The question is, how many actually know the Matsumura Family Hakutsuru? I'm guessing 1.(or 2?).
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dineshm wrote:
People can 'claim' to teach the matsumura hakutsuru, like this guy.
http://www.amazon.com/Hakutsuru-Secret-White-George-Alexander/dp/B00007MEYT

The question is, how many actually know the Matsumura Family Hakutsuru? I'm guessing 1.(or 2?).


so tell us what you know about it.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

P.A.L wrote:
dineshm wrote:
People can 'claim' to teach the matsumura hakutsuru, like this guy.
http://www.amazon.com/Hakutsuru-Secret-White-George-Alexander/dp/B00007MEYT

The question is, how many actually know the Matsumura Family Hakutsuru? I'm guessing 1.(or 2?).


so tell us what you know about it.

What I know about it?
Not much. Only that it's supposed to be a family style. A family style isn't usually taught to everyone.
George alexander's Hohan Soken, life of a grandmaster allegedly shows part of the hakutsuru kate, but without Master Soken, or Fusei Kise to confirm it's; authenticity, it's probably just a hoax.
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