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Zanshin
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

armanox wrote:
I never understood why some styles have a jump there either. I never questioned it, I assume it serves a purpose. In Koybayashi Ryu we have a throw in that place (view kata below)

I prefer this explanation as opposed to blocking a kick with your arms. That said I think the guy doing the counting in Japanese needs a bit of "crash" course in pronunciation.

Still, bought a smile to my face.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Zanshin. I know that many times the bunkai of the techniques doesn't really match what it appears to in the form.

In our TKD form Toi Gye, we have a similar move.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bushido_man96 wrote:
Thanks, Zanshin. I know that many times the bunkai of the techniques doesn't really match what it appears to in the form.

In our TKD form Toi Gye, we have a similar move.


The way I look at it is that Kata has many different levels of function ranging from the "physiological" (and the training of the body for strength agility, balance and timing etc.), to the explanation and therefore understanding of martial techniques.

The key is to get a good instructor who can unlock all of katas potential for you.

Can you post a link to a vid of "Toi Gye" so I may compare.

Thanks...

Z
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zanshin wrote:
bushido_man96 wrote:
Thanks, Zanshin. I know that many times the bunkai of the techniques doesn't really match what it appears to in the form.

In our TKD form Toi Gye, we have a similar move.


The way I look at it is that Kata has many different levels of function ranging from the "physiological" (and the training of the body for strength agility, balance and timing etc.), to the explanation and therefore understanding of martial techniques.

The key is to get a good instructor who can unlock all of katas potential for you.

Can you post a link to a vid of "Toi Gye" so I may compare.

Thanks...

Z


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUoo5Na8dUQ

Here ya go.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that guy wearing a watch???
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GOM wrote:
Is that guy wearing a watch???

Maybe he thinks it will improve his timing

Sorry couldn't resist.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like it to me. Is that him breathing? it sonds like my son shaking his box of bee-bees.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ps1 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUoo5Na8dUQ

Here ya go.


Thanks for digging that up for me, ps1. I have been out the past few days!

That is basically the same form I do, but the way our school does it is much quicker, and without the sine wave (bouncing) motions, and the hand techniques are not as circular. Also, when we finish the downward X-block, we are much lower to the ground, and squatting more.
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