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Johnlogic121
Orange Belt
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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Styles: Montgomery Style Karate, Ninjutsu, Isshinryu, Judo, Mang Chaun Kung Fu, Kempo
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 Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:06 am Post subject: High Kick Leg Takedowns |
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Suppose you go to kick someone in the head, perhaps with a roundhouse kick or perhaps with a front kick, and they evade your attack in such a manner that hey catch your leg high in the air while you are fully extending the leg. Does anybody have a counter technique to this type of takedown? I can describe the specifc takedowns to specific high kicks in greater detail if necessary. My impression is that such takedowns can be very dangerous to the kicker, and I'm wondering if anybody has a remedy for kickers who would otherwise have to take a solid fall from such a takedown. What do you think? Thanks in advance.
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NightOwl
KF Sempai
Joined: 08 Dec 2006
Posts: 981
Location: Japan
Styles: This and that, Rookie Judo
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as long as you know how to fall you should be fine.
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
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Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo,Hapkido, SCA Combat, and I research Medieval Combat
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If my leg is up that high, and has been caught, I am going to try to pull it back, and go to the ground before being tossed or having my leg broken.
If you are athletic enough, you could jump off the base leg to try and swing your body up and around, or something desperate like that. Otherwise, you are in a bad spot.
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Throwdown0850
Blue Belt
Joined: 16 Feb 2008
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Styles: Kodokan Judo, AikiJuJutsu, Kenpo Karate, just started Kyusho-Jitsu
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yeah, its a really bad spot, I wouldnt really be worried about being thrown back to the ground.. it would be the pounding I would get while he has a hold of my leg...
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
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Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo,Hapkido, SCA Combat, and I research Medieval Combat
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What you usually have to do is try to pull your leg back, bringing you and the other fighter together. At that point, clinching up and attacking with your arms would be a good way to start regaining your lost leg. If you stay way outside, with your leg straighter, then I think it puts you in bigger peril, and leaves the opponent holding your leg with more options to attack than you have to defend.
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ninjanurse
KF Sensei
Joined: 13 Feb 2003
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Location: Upstate NY
Styles: TKD;Shotokan;JuJitsu;Tai Ji
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One might try a circle throw*... he'll let go as his face heads towards the floor.
*Circle throw (tomoe nage): Sit down (as fas as is possible with your leg in the air) and grab his collars/neck/shoulders. As his momentum throws him forward plant your other foot in his chest and chuck him over your head.
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isshinryu5toforever
Black Belt
Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 1685
Location: New York University, usually Wisconsin
Styles: Isshin-Ryu Karate, Judo, Aikido, WTF Tae Kwon Do (college team)
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tomoe nage is difficult to perform in that particular position. The best way to get around that would be to kick an attacker in the head once you've made his head your belt level. There is no real reason to kick someone in the head if you can cripple them with a leg kick or a hard body shot. Head kicks look nice, and they can be devastating, but they are also extremely risky. Once the leg is caught, if your opponent knows what to do with it, you're at his mercy. If he doesn't you lucked out, and can try one of the above mentioned ways to escape.
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on the post.
