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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kyle-san wrote:
I'm fully aware there are many better fighters than me


And usually that really isn't even the issue. A street fight doesn't start like your average sparring session, two people facing each other starting to dance back and forth exchanging punches. In a street confrontation you may already have been taken down to grappling range when you first realize you are being attacked in the first place. Someone tackles you from behind or takes a chokehold and you don't have the choice of trying to knock him down before starting grappling...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kirves wrote:
And usually that really isn't even the issue. A street fight doesn't start like your average sparring session, two people facing each other starting to dance back and forth exchanging punches. In a street confrontation you may already have been taken down to grappling range when you first realize you are being attacked in the first place. Someone tackles you from behind or takes a chokehold and you don't have the choice of trying to knock him down before starting grappling...


And this is the exact scenario I was hoping someone would bring up. A situation applicable to the street that makes a very good pro-grappling case as opposed to the UFC supported case that comes up so often. This is why it's completely necessary to have both good grappling and striking skills so you can at least have some idea of how to deal with random situations.

Balance is necessary in martial arts.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HELLO why is this even a discussion grappling is very important and so is striking, this has already been debated a million times and people that say that they're art can defeat grappling are only fooling themselves
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karate can defeat jui-jitsu. jui-jitsu can also defeat Karate. depends on who trains harder.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WHAAAAAAAAAT I THINK NOT!!!!!!
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