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Symphony-x
Orange Belt


Joined: 27 Nov 2006
Posts: 172
Location: Scotland
Styles: Freestyle Karate, Kickboxing, Boxing; Used to do TKD
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:26 am Post subject: I don't understand this... |
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...But, In Boxing, KBoxing, MT, whatever... why do many people only learn to fight in one stance, IE Right or Left [or south paw... whatever]?
I personally believe in learning/training in both stance, not only does it get my skill level; up, but switching around in fights can confuse oppenents etc...
Anyway, What are peoples opinions on this, and what do you train as left, right or both?
Thanks _________________ Willing - Believing - Achieving
Orange Belt: Freestyle/Sport Karate - Kickboxing - Boxing |
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gzk
Blue Belt

Joined: 02 Feb 2007
Posts: 278
Styles: Shootfighting, BJJ
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:51 am Post subject: |
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I train with a right hand/orthodox stance. I would guess that training in both is uncommon because while it can mess up your opponent, it can also mess you up; it makes keeping your balance harder, it can make your responses a little slower, make ranging more difficult, etc. For all the opponent-confusing value it has, you still have to land good shots and avoid those of your opponent. Having said all that, I do think training in your non-preferred stance to some degree is a good idea, just in case you ever find the need to use it. _________________ Battling biomechanical dyslexia since 2007 |
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei


Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 13574
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, and I research Medieval Combat
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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I like to train from both sides. I have seen people start switching their stances when I switch, so I like to mess with them.  _________________ Success is where preparation meets opportunity.
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IcemanSK
Purple Belt

Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Posts: 520
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Styles: Tae Kwon Do Chung Do Kwan
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:03 am Post subject: |
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I think the reason it's taught to focus on one stance is the idea of putting your power side in the back. (If your right handed, you'll generate more power if your left foot is forward). I think a lot of boxing trainers feel that "switching" is a waste of time and energy. Given the confines of the rules of boxing, learning to switch would mean changing focus (ie. doubling your workout). Most trainers would consider that unproductive.
In the era of MMA (where fighters are in many different positions) learning to fight on both sides is much more valueable. _________________ Being a good fighter is One thing. Being a good person is Everything. Kevin "Superkick" McClinton |
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cross
Black Belt

Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Posts: 1874
Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:23 am Post subject: |
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| Personally being that my training is geared towards self protection, i train both. The situation will dictate what position you are in initially, so skills with either side forward are crucial. Although if you are training specifically for competition, it may be more beneficial early on to focus on one side forward and be comfortable with that first. |
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Menjo
Black Belt

Joined: 27 Jun 2005
Posts: 1786
Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| IcemanSK wrote: |
I think the reason it's taught to focus on one stance is the idea of putting your power side in the back. (If your right handed, you'll generate more power if your left foot is forward). I think a lot of boxing trainers feel that "switching" is a waste of time and energy. Given the confines of the rules of boxing, learning to switch would mean changing focus (ie. doubling your workout). Most trainers would consider that unproductive.
In the era of MMA (where fighters are in many different positions) learning to fight on both sides is much more valueable. |
I think that thats exactly it,
personally:
I naturally train both as I write with my left hand and do everything else with my right, so either or are equally comfortable. _________________ "Time is what we want most, but what we use worst"
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some0ne
Yellow Belt

Joined: 26 Dec 2006
Posts: 30
Location: NC right now
Styles: Muay Thai, Kyokushin, Kakutogi, BJJ, Shito Ryu(hayashi ha)
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:38 am Post subject: |
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You start out in one stance and eventually...usually a few years later get proficient in the other stance. Every instructor in the association I learned under(m.t.i.a./"master toddy's")can fight in both stances. _________________ Karate without bareknuckle kumite(kyokushin/knockdown rules)is dancing. Karate without kata isn't Karate.
BTW, I'm a horrible dancer. |
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nine_weapons
Orange Belt

Joined: 31 Jul 2007
Posts: 155
Styles: muay thai, judo, bjj
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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1. efficiency. when you are training to fight and fight well against others who are training to beat you, you don't have time to hone everything on both sides.
2. principle. Boxers fight with the power side back - you only have one power side.
if you wish, you can train to switch sides - some do. But the primary stance is power side back. _________________ My thoughts on martial arts and weight training:
http://www.hesfit.com/men/comment/bodyweight-training-vs-weight-training-a-martial-artists-perspective/ |
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baronbvp
Black Belt


Joined: 27 Feb 2005
Posts: 1132
Location: Berlin, Germany
Styles: JKD/MMA, Muay Thai, Shorin Ryu, military combat arts, fencing, archery
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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| But the primary stance is power side back. |
That depends. Bruce Lee liked his power side forward - the straight lead. He believed that was the side that would get the most work, therefore you should put your strong power side toward the opponent. I train both stances, but when I'm tired it is natural for me to switch to power side forward. _________________ Only as good as I make myself be, only as bad as I let myself be.
Martial arts are like kinetic chess. Your move. |
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KNOCKuOUT
Orange Belt

Joined: 30 Mar 2007
Posts: 136
Location: Fords, New Jersey
Styles: Kenpo, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Most of the techniques at my school are taught in one stance, but on my own time I try to practice them on both. Most of the basic strikes are taught on both sides however at my school. |
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