Information on Shaolin-Do

ShoriKid · Orange Belt

Sometimes also known as Shaolin Karate-Do. I know what I can find on the web, which is basically a list of instructors and lineages. What I'm looking for are some first hand account and experiences others have had with the style.

I'll be up front and say that I have yet to meet a practicioner of the style that has impressed me. Not that I'm an authority on Chinese based arts mind you. Nice people most certainly, but do they, in your experience, have any ability at all? Can they fight, work good self defense or have good forms work? I'm looking to the Chinese stylists on the boards here for obvious reasons. You all know the background of those arts much more than I would even dare claim to and have resources to vet them that I do not.
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NightOwl · KF Sempai

I have heard and read many, many stories about shaolin-do and from them I would recommend staying away from the organization. Things ranging from banning people who cross train to revisionist history (although that pretty much is most places claiming a tie to shaolin) seem to happen a lot there, along with the old cliche of 'mcdojo'ism.

Edit: I PM'd you some stories
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Kajukenbopr · Pre-Black Belt

Same as a "Pakua" school in South America( McKwoon that claims they teach Baguazhang) but they wear Aikido /hapkido uniforms and do all sorts of Hapkido-like movements.

The name says its a scam: It should be Shaolin-tao, not "shaolin do" - shaolin is chinese/ Tao is their tradition
Do is Japanese(while meaning is similar to Tao, it has different tradition)
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RobertTX · White Belt

I am studying Shaolin-Do Kung Fu. As a matter of fact I am taking my 2nd degree brown belt test tomorrow night.

I do not have any experience in the other styles to be able to make any valid comparisons.

I do know that what I have learned to date is very real and very effective in a fight. There are over 900 forms or katas to learn. We also have to learn forms from various other styles such as Tai Chi and Pakua as we advance in rank. One you achieve your 1st degree BB, generally in two years you can plan on your second degree BB in two years, your third in 3 etc..

Once your achieve 5th degree your called and Associate Master; 6th is Master and 7th is Elder Master.

Our Grandmaster is a 10th degree black belt

A good website is http://www.shaolin-do.com/

It will explain why we use the word "Do" in our name

Kajukenbopr · Pre-Black Belt

I'll say it again...

Kata is for karate - FORM is the name the chinese use(Yes, the meanings are the same)
Also, why use karate uniforms, if you are practising kung fu?? historically it can be excused, but formally it is frowned upon.

3rd, no one, and I mean NO ONE can master ALL the forms in Kung Fu. Besides, it would be pointless, you learn the form, to develop your own form afterwards, your own unique movement.

4th, Baguazhang is not shaolin, Taichi is not shaolin, Hsing I is not shaolin.... Shaolin is Buddhist - Taichi, bagua and xing yi are taoist arts....

If you can in fact use the material you have learned, I congratulate you in your training, but know that its a mix of styles and not original material directly descendant of the Shaolin Temple, you can do research on your own to verify this.
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