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Alan Armstrong
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| If a one day Jujitsu class was made possible for self defense purposes, it would probably be too short, perhaps an appreciation day of Jujitsu would be more reasonable, with explanations and examples of techniques as a foundation of the building blocks necessary for self-defense. |
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TJ-Jitsu
Blue Belt
Joined: 30 Sep 2014
Posts: 316
Location: PA
Styles: Gracie Jiu Jitsu, Muay Thai
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Alan Armstrong wrote: |
| If a one day Jujitsu class was made possible for self defense purposes, it would probably be too short, perhaps an appreciation day of Jujitsu would be more reasonable, with explanations and examples of techniques as a foundation of the building blocks necessary for self-defense. |
Thats really what it is- not terribly unlike a movie trailer. You cant view a movie in 60 seconds, and you cant learn jiu jitsu in one class. The only thing we can do is hope to pique your interest and invite you to actually come and train... |
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sensei8
KF Sensei
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 16427
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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But what you can do in one class is to either like it or hate it; every style has that one chance to make an impression, whether it be a good one or a bad one!!
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TJ-Jitsu
Blue Belt
Joined: 30 Sep 2014
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Location: PA
Styles: Gracie Jiu Jitsu, Muay Thai
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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But what you can do in one class is to either like it or hate it; every style has that one chance to make an impression, whether it be a good one or a bad one!!
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Very true. The problem lies with the clients. People always want to do a "self defense" course or "show me how to get away" type stuff. Almost like they're learning how to do a magic trick or something. Problem is when you confront them with the reality that its a physical skill that needs to be practiced like any other sport, they get disillusioned (lazy...) and go look for someone to sell it to them cheaper and quicker. |
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JusticeZero
Black Belt
Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 2166
Location: AK
Styles: Capoeira Angola
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| Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:45 am Post subject: |
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Which is why you focus on a few ideas that are useful and easy to do. Don't work on complex techniques, just do the very low hanging fruit like wrist releases, breakfalls, and principles of awareness. Show a little bit about how your art might deal with such issues, but really you just want to get a couple of basic ideas across.
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 30188
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, GRACIE, Police Krav Maga, SPEAR
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| Which is why you focus on a few ideas that are useful and easy to do. Don't work on complex techniques, just do the very low hanging fruit like wrist releases, breakfalls, and principles of awareness. Show a little bit about how your art might deal with such issues, but really you just want to get a couple of basic ideas across. |
And then hopefully convince them of the value of continued practice.
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Alan Armstrong
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Jujitsu being a grappling art, that trains mostly for ground fighting situations, in self-defense situations the ground is not the place to be trapped on.
A modified version of Jujitsu for the public seems very practical and beneficial.
SDJJ might be the answer? |
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JusticeZero
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The ground isn't where you want to be trapped, but that's exactly why it's important to learn. Also, a lot of situations are "drunk uncle" scenarios where harmless control and submission are more useful than escape. Ground stuff is good for that, even if it's just knowing how to properly pin somebody down as a restraint.
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Alan Armstrong
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Do grapplers ever cross train in Chin Na?
Or is Chin Na something that is only used by other (none Japanese originated) MA styles?
As Chin Na is a part of Gung Fu and Grappling is supposedly something that is none existent in Chinese Martia Arts?
For example when a match between BJJ and Kung Fu is stated; how confusing?
(Kung Fu simply implies a learned skill or training) of anything.
Jujitsu for the public is IMHO better to learn than Chin Na, due to the high flexibility or pliability levels needed; as most people are not conditioned to the level of a Shaolin monk. |
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sensei8
KF Sensei
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 16427
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Styles: Shindokan Saitou-ryu [Shuri-te/Okinawa-te based]
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In Shindokan, a Karate style that's deeply engrossed in grappling/Tegumi, we incorporate our brand of Tuite in all things. Yet, if I might, whether it be Tuite or Chin Na, they're both about joint manipulations and the like. So, I suppose that Shindokan incorporates Chin Na...too. We just don't use that terminology!!
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