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UseoForce
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Posts: 938
Styles: Combat Hapkido, MMA/BJJ, Various others
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I'd assume the predictability percieved in capoeira came from sparring with someone who only knew how to make 1 or 2 techniques work smoothly in the ginga, and only executed them from one side.
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JusticeZero
Green Belt
Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 487
Location: Melbourne, AU
Styles: Capoeira Angola
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| most of these spinning and jumping techniques are superfluous in combat, where one wants to keep things simple |
I don't do any jumping techniques at all. The turning ones are safer to do, since the counters to the linear attacks tend to be quite a bit more brutal, and I don't want people being dropped potentially on the back of their head quite so often.
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| rhythm is bad for fighting, since makes one susceptible to being 'timed' and caught between techniques or out of balance. |
We don't hold to a 'rhythm'. The other guy has a rhythm, we follow it in order to use off-beats and the like to use it against them.
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| I would reccomend Capoeira for conditioning and flexibility |
I dunno, I usually recommend that they go somewhere else for their hip/leg flexibility, as we don't kick above the ribs as a rule and never have.
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Monitor, Traditional Capoeira Angola
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juey palancu
Orange Belt
Joined: 24 Dec 2005
Posts: 116
Location: Puerto Rico
Styles: Shotokan
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Hi,
What i posted above was just my opinion based on the capoeira I have been exposed to and which I have observed. If it works for some people, they should by all means use it!
hasta luego!
Gero
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Yasutsune Makoto
Orange Belt
Joined: 03 May 2006
Posts: 192
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Styles: Shotokan
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| Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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I have quite a few friends in capoeria and it's pretty fun to mess around with. But, like others, I wouldn't trust it for the street unless you've had a good long time to get good at it. You can develop from it and if you like it keep with it!
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Jbone1
Blue Belt
Joined: 26 Apr 2004
Posts: 253
Styles: Ken Bo Ju Ka Ryu=Kenpo, Boxing, Jujitsu, and Karate with a foundation of Tae Kwon Do
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Umm, this is where we don't do much research. You can't say an art is totally not useful for the street when you haven't seen it all.
I'm in Capoeira right now and we have done some in close fighting. Remember Brazilian Jujitsu and Capoeira can go hand in hand. There are strikes, elbows, knees, and headbutts.
Really if you have had training in another art before that has these techniques as their bread and butter you can find where to incorporate them from the ginga or within other Capoeira moves.
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jaymac
Black Belt
Joined: 14 Dec 2005
Posts: 1131
Styles: shotokan (nidan)
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I know that if I had the opportunity to try capoeria, I would. I mean, I have seen some people who do this art, and they are in the best shape. I can't even do a cartwheel. 
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JusticeZero
Green Belt
Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 487
Location: Melbourne, AU
Styles: Capoeira Angola
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I teach the art and I can't do a "cartwheel" either. A "cartwheel" is not a movement we use; we have a movement that looks similar to it that's structured utterly and completely different to it that I can teach a 70 year old or a couch potato to do passably well in 5 minutes.
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elbows_and_knees
Black Belt
Joined: 24 Jun 2005
Posts: 1795
Styles: thai boxing, grappling
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| you know he's referring to au, even though it's not a cartwheel.... but I dunno if angola guys do au.... |
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legkicker
Orange Belt
Joined: 21 Jul 2006
Posts: 130
Styles: knockdown karate and muay thai
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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GRUPO AXE!!! REPRESENT ZENT ZENT!!!
Yes, finally someone talked about BJJ and Capoeira, they go together very well. I don't know why capoeira doesn't get better respect. I have met so many people ever since only the strong came out 10 years ago or longer that claim to do capoeira that obviously don't know the first thing about it. |
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elbows_and_knees
Black Belt
Joined: 24 Jun 2005
Posts: 1795
Styles: thai boxing, grappling
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| Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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| because of the representation that it gets in the media - high flying acrobatics. They don't go in depth about what capoeira really is. |
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on the post.
