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KarateKid7
Orange Belt
Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Posts: 161
Location: Surrey, England
Styles: 1st Kyu Shito-ryu Karate
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 Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:04 am Post subject: Karate and chi |
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Could anyone give me some brief insight into the link between karate and chi.
One example that comes to mind is the "moving chi" employed in kata such as sanchin and tensho and Iv even heard links between chi gung and seienchin. Less obscurely, the Kiai is a release of built up chi.
Could the advanced practioners of karate in this forum give me any advice into implementing chi (visualisation, breathing) into kumite and kata training.
For example do people who cross train between chigung/qi gong and karate imagine chi flowing through their gyakazuki punches and uraken when training?
Any comments would be gratefully welcomed.
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Yasutsune Makoto
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Joined: 03 May 2006
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Location: Columbus, Ohio
Styles: Shotokan
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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As far as visualization goes just fire up your imagination. For me, when I am in a stance, I am ripping the earth apart between my legs, and when i throw the punch my fist extends like a laser beam, breaking through the wall, the building, the cars outside, forever. My downward block cuts the floor in half. My toes rip the mats apart. Every ounce of energy extends through to the smallest point of impact, exploding from my fist like a blast from mega-man's rifle arm.
I don't know how to train for it other than to just try and do it. Sync it up with your breathing, with the image of your power being light, and shooting the light out of your body. Slow everything down and feel all the tension in your body at the point of impact, all your kime, and have your focus be at the point of impact. Like your whole being belongs on top of your first two knuckles. For me, this is what karate is all about, the ultimate focus and transfer of energy, with all your body and spirit behind it. Into one single moment of perfection, followed by another and another. Constantly expanding and contracting. Extending your power and gathering it up again.
I don't know if this answers your question. But I hope it helps if you try it.
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KarateKid7
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Joined: 18 Mar 2003
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Location: Surrey, England
Styles: 1st Kyu Shito-ryu Karate
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| Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:15 pm Post subject: osu |
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your response provided me with the right sort of insight i was looking for - some of which makes sense as my sensei is always hinting very obscurely at some of the things you shed light on. thank you. osu.
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Yasutsune Makoto
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| Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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glad I could help
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Jiffy
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| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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By the way, Karate practitioners generally don't refer to it as Chi because that is the Chinese term.
They usually refer to it a Ki or Zanchin. 
(same thing though) 
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KarateKid7
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Location: Surrey, England
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:27 am Post subject: |
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friend just as you humbly intended to point out that karatekas refer it to as chi, for your benefit also, I think you will find that Ki and Zanchin are not one and the same. Osu
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Ace2021
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Joined: 15 Jun 2006
Posts: 279
Location: Texas
Styles: Kyokushin Karate, Brazilian Jujitsu, Mixed Martial Arts
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I find it easier to break boards and ice slabs if I can visualize energy "Chi/Ki" built up in my index and middle knuckles, and when knifehand (karate chop), visualizing it built up along the edge of my hand. maybe it's just a mental thing, not sure.
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Jiffy
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Correct, they are often referred to as such though.
Ki is just one element of Zanchin.
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AngelaG
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legkicker
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Styles: knockdown karate and muay thai
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| Jiffy wrote: |
Correct, they are often referred to as such though.
Ki is just one element of Zanchin. |
I've never heard Ki and Zanshin referred to as the same until you just said so. |
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on the post.
