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Thai_Kick
Orange Belt
Joined: 19 Sep 2002
Posts: 207
Location: Ontario, Canada
Styles: Muay Thai, JKD and Kali
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I have to feel it... a uh?
What about Kyokushin, it's a budo art yet fights in sport (K-1, Knockdown, Sabaki...)
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ZeRo
Black Belt
Joined: 03 Apr 2002
Posts: 2571
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i feel i have to step in here, some of you may have noticed a slight bit of tension between kensai and thai_kick, may i remind you to keep this friendly. this is a friendly community and lets keep it that way. chill.
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Kensai
Black Belt
Joined: 05 Jul 2002
Posts: 1415
Location: Britain
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| Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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I am all for full contact sparring, within the remit of MA training. Not competition.
Kyokushin is a very modern style of Karate, and not a budo art. Not to my knowledge. I was talking about the main styles, the Okinwanan, Gojo, Shotokan and Wado. If Kyokushin fighters want to fight in the Oylmpic's then they can, however they are going to have to sacrfice, everything that makes Kyokushin a good style. Full contact sparring. As the Oylmpic's wont allow it.
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Thai_Kick
Orange Belt
Joined: 19 Sep 2002
Posts: 207
Location: Ontario, Canada
Styles: Muay Thai, JKD and Kali
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| Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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i feel i have to step in here, some of you may have noticed a slight bit of tension between kensai and thai_kick, may i remind you to keep this friendly. this is a friendly community and lets keep it that way. chill.
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What tension? I'm asking questions because I really don't understand why a budo art can't compete in sport?
XpOiSoN FrEeX,
I suggest you "chill" and keep your pu**y comments to yourself!
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Kensai
Black Belt
Joined: 05 Jul 2002
Posts: 1415
Location: Britain
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| Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Thai_Kick, your tone is not really nessary, he was only joking about.
I think I could tell you about Budo arts until I am blue in the face, but I dont think you would understand what I ment.
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Thai_Kick
Orange Belt
Joined: 19 Sep 2002
Posts: 207
Location: Ontario, Canada
Styles: Muay Thai, JKD and Kali
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| Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Kyokushin fighters want to fight in the Oylmpic's then they can, however they are going to have to sacrfice, everything that makes Kyokushin a good style. |
Sacrifice what? Their would be nothing to sacrifice! Kyokushin is a hard style that is extremly well respected for it's full contact sparring in regular class and sport tournaments (K-1, Knockdown, Sabaki...). People know and understand that Kyokushin practitioners are rough and tough and can take a punch or kick, so to place it in the Olympics will help promote Karate and a greater amount of respect will be given towards Karateka's in general for their fighting ability/spirit. Also the Olympic Conceal would allow full contact, since they have considered Muay Thai, Kickboxing and Pankration to do a demonstration in 2004 and 2008 to see how people will react to the sport, so anything is possible.
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Kensai
Black Belt
Joined: 05 Jul 2002
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Location: Britain
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| Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 5:03 am Post subject: |
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I am not sure that they will actually allow full contact. You only have to look at how they De-fanged Judo and TKD.
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niel0092
Brown Belt
Joined: 12 Jul 2001
Posts: 738
Location: Minnesota
Styles: Kali, TKD, judo (formerly)
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I agree. They made us water down TKD to make it more pallateable to the masses, why wouldn't they do the same to other arts? It began as a demo sport in 1988 and in a short 14 years our credability is shot. Worst thing to ever happen to TKD.
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Kensai
Black Belt
Joined: 05 Jul 2002
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Location: Britain
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| Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 9:47 am Post subject: |
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Once upon a time, General Choi created a complete system called Tae Kwon Do, it included techniques from karate and jujutsu, as well as the effects of other native Korean styles. Then the olymics came along and told them they could only punch and kick, and that was not even full contact. What they have done to Judo is possibly worse, they are only aloud to "fight" from a few grappling positions, and virtually no true ground work. As Kodokan Judo (Traditional) is as nasty on the ground as BJJ.
I hope for the sake of your style Thai_Kick, that MT does not get into the olymics, because I really dont think you will be able to compete in the true nature of MT.
However, thank what ever deity you believe in that there are still good teachers out there, teaching the arts as they should be taught.
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ZeRo
Black Belt
Joined: 03 Apr 2002
Posts: 2571
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i feel i have to step in here, some of you may have noticed a slight bit of tension between kensai and thai_kick, may i remind you to keep this friendly. this is a friendly community and lets keep it that way. chill.
peace out. |
What tension? I'm asking questions because I really don't understand why a budo art can't compete in sport?
XpOiSoN FrEeX,
I suggest you "chill" and keep your pu**y comments to yourself! |
im just trying to keep this forum friendly.
and as for the tension, i think this is a fine example......... |
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on the post.
