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Naspirated
White Belt
Joined: 17 Nov 2002
Posts: 3
Location: Anahiem
Styles: Shindo Jinen Ryu
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 Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2002 10:30 pm Post subject: Karate in the Olympics |
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Recently karate has recieved the attention of the IOC (Internationl Olympic commitee), and will hopefully enter the 2004 olympics as a demonstration sport. Personally I believe extending Karate into the Olympics will help promote karate as a sport, however does subjecting karate directly towards sports training and winning competition take away from the culture and traditions? What do you think? Is sport the way to go, or must we retain our foundations and stick with the traditional way of karate?
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Karateka_latino
Black Belt
Joined: 21 Jun 2001
Posts: 1295
Location: Panama city, Panama
Styles: Goju-Ryu & Shotokan Karate do; Shaolin Kung Fu. Previous training in Muay Thai, J.K.D., Tai Chi & Taekwondo(wtf)
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| Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2002 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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My personal opinion is that if Karate gets to the Olympics it will get ruined as a martial arts. Just like happend to WTF taekwondo and Judo. It will get totally sportive.
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Thai_Kick
Orange Belt
Joined: 19 Sep 2002
Posts: 207
Location: Ontario, Canada
Styles: Muay Thai, JKD and Kali
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| Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2002 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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Well to answer this question I would have to look at Muay Thai...
It's considered a sport and yet includes the importance and value of tradition, by means of the "Wai Kru/Ram Muay" a traditional dance performed by both fighters before the fight, also the wearing of traditional articles of clothing to the ring to bring luck and fighting spirt, and you can't forget about the "old school" Thai music which is played during the fight, all these examples embrace the culture and traditions of Muay Thai and Thailand. As a result the same can be said about placeing Karate in the Olympics or labeling it has a "sport" this should not disrupt the tradition or culture in anyway, unless you want it too.
IMO placing Karate in the Olympics will only be a good idea if they spar full contact, similar to Kyokushin and if they choose to go the other way with point-sparring then it will ruin it. After watching TKD in the past Olympics was an embarrassment, a bunch of goofs jumping and bouncing all around with their hands at their waists, attempting to kick each other in the head was really sad (and funny) to watch. If Karate is to be in the Olympics I hope it dosen't go down the same road TKD did.
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Kensai
Black Belt
Joined: 05 Jul 2002
Posts: 1415
Location: Britain
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| Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 7:03 am Post subject: |
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Karate unlike MT is a budo art.
TKD and Judo looks very sad in the olympics. I think it is a great shame that these amazing styles have been boiled down to nothing better than painful tennis. Just very back and fourth and not the way they should be. Dont get me wrong they are amazing athlets and could run rings around me, but they are not practicing th art the way they were created.
I cant speak for General Choi, but I think Sensei Kano would be very sad to see what Judo has become.
Just IMHO ofcourse.
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psychospaz
Yellow Belt
Joined: 20 Feb 2002
Posts: 88
Styles: Shotokan Karate Green Belt, Freestyle Shootfighting/Submission Wrestling
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| Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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You speak for Kano but not Choi.
Your call i guess... |
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Thai_Kick
Orange Belt
Joined: 19 Sep 2002
Posts: 207
Location: Ontario, Canada
Styles: Muay Thai, JKD and Kali
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| Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Budo: Japanese martial arts whose goal is to simultaneously cultivate martial techniques, character, and spirituality.
Kensai, what does Budo have to do with Karate beening in the Oylmpics or labeld as a "sport"?
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Kensai
Black Belt
Joined: 05 Jul 2002
Posts: 1415
Location: Britain
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| Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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psychospaz, I did think that was stupid after I wrote it. I mean from my knowledge of Kano.
Thai_Kick, it has everything with it being an Oylmpic SPORT, BUDO arts are not SPORTS! Simple. 
You naughty little troll.
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ZeRo
Black Belt
Joined: 03 Apr 2002
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 didnt think youd accually say that kensai  |
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Thai_Kick
Orange Belt
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Location: Ontario, Canada
Styles: Muay Thai, JKD and Kali
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| Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| BUDO arts are not SPORTS! |
Why not? What makes them so different?
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Kensai
Black Belt
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Location: Britain
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| Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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BUDO!
If you dont understand you never will. I cant explain it to you, you have to feel it.
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on the post.
