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hurley bird
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 Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2003 8:36 pm Post subject: Karate vs. TKD style sidekick |
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When i took Karate i was taught to keep my body straight for a sidekick. Now in TKD im (trying) to be taught to bend my body down beacause it "protects the head and lets you kick higher" i can already kick high enough with a straight body as is though. Which technique is better?
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BlackRose
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2003 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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i don't know what is better but i would say to choose the one you are more comfortable with. if you choose the strait one, guard your head with your arms.
i have been taught to bend and it helps with my balence but that might just be me
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panginoon
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2003 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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When i took Karate i was taught to keep my body straight for a sidekick. Now in TKD im (trying) to be taught to bend my body down beacause it "protects the head and lets you kick higher" i can already kick high enough with a straight body as is though. Which technique is better?
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Since I have been warned I will not belittle. The TKD sidekick is usally "chambered" or it is pulled across the body before it is extended. The problem is that this is very visable and lends to it being intercepted. The leaning back thing seems to be a little odd. Being on one foot is an unstable position to start with, why make it worse by leaning? Also it makes you suseptible to sweeps and kicks to the groin. |
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Kyle-san
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2003 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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That particular way of doing a TKD sidekick is mainly for tournament use where attacks to the lower body aren't allowed.
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Withers M.A.A.
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As a karate and TKD stylist I can elaborate a bit.
The TKD sidekick is MUCH more powerful than a karate sidekick. In TKD you roll your hip over and lean backwards a bit. This extends your body and your leg about an extra 2 feet in distance. Also, by rolling your hips over it generates a lot more power. When done properly your kicking heel should make a straight line from your heel to your kicking side hip to the standing legs hip to your shoulders etc. This locks your body and makes an extremely powerful kick. In a karate sidekick you simply chamber your leg and throw it out. Nothing is mentioned about turning your body. This kick gets its power from the kicking leg only. I would much rather prefer to have my entire body involved.
Pete
ps. TKD is primarily a kicking style and has the most effective kicking methods around. Therefore the kicking techniques used in TKD have had much more attention to detail.
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hurley bird
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2003 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, thanks guys.
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ninjanurse
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IMO and experience...TKD side kick is much easier on the knees than Karate side kick, and can provide more power if done properly.In case of sparring, the chamber can be done fast enough (with enough practice) so as not to telegraph it.
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TJS
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| TKD is primarily a kicking style and has the most effective kicking methods around |
Thats a pretty big statment, I dont know how you could justify TKD having more effective kicks than say Muay Thai. and thats just one example.
TKD kicks are for speed and snap they are deffinetly not as powerful or effective as say ,a Thai Stlye roundhouse.
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WolverineGuy
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In all honesty, it depends on your goal. If you're looking for a fast kick, power kick, etc. While I don't agree with leaning over by any means, if you cause the damage and don't get hurt yourself, the technique can't be all bad. 
For the record, my sparring coach is a 7th dan in TKD, and he does not advocate leaning back.
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SaiFightsMS
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2003 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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| You have no idea how nice it is to see an open discussion of a technique with no insults and disrespectful posts in here. Keep it up. |
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on the post.
