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Angus
Black Belt
Joined: 21 Jun 2001
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Location: Australia
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Although i do know how to execute a good number of effective kicks i find that in a REAL fight i scrap a lot and use my hands and grappling a lot more than my kicks... I have used the Muay Thai roundhouse kick a lot as well, but only because it is quick and effective...
I think i would only use big technical kicks if i were to come across another VERY experienced martial artist, because i would then have to use everything in my arsenal...
Mastering the basics is fine but if someone has mastered the defense against the basics then u r in trouble...
What are your thoughts??
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Immortal
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Joined: 21 May 2001
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Location: U.S.A, baby!
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Well, you simply have to learn more kicks. You can't only have a simple set of kicks. You must always have new material to throw around.
Learn all of the kicks. Learn them well. Learn them fast. Be prepared to use them.
Those are my thoughts..anyone else? |
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Jack
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Joined: 22 Jun 2001
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Location: England
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Well, my young opinion is that use what you are the best at, use what you've trained the most. For example, if you are studying Tae Kwon Do you do not want to try and grapple them to the ground... However, in self defence situations you do not want to start pulling off the fancy moves, since if you are out then it is probably dark making visiblity harder, or you are drunk in which well, you'll loose balance 
However, one method which works incredibly well without too much risk is a move much like a standard side kick. Standing sideways to them, you merely cross one leg back behind the other and lift the kicking leg up before thrusting it at them. My instructor used this on a Green belt who weighed 18 stones, and sent him back a fair bit too 
I would not bother with fancy kicks unless incredibly well trained at them, in a real life situation it is not worth the risk.
And thats my 2 cents
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Jack
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Location: England
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Patrick
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Angus
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Joined: 21 Jun 2001
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Location: Australia
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Yeah, thanx for the posts guys...
Back in the day (when i was fast) i once used a spinning hook kick in a fight and landed it nicely on his cheek... he went down like a sack of spuds, but i wouldn't use that now.
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thaiboxerken
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Joined: 21 Jun 2001
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Location: Portland, Oregon
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You don't HAVE to learn the fancy kicks. It's just fun and keeps people in the gym training. But it's the execution of the basics that differentiate an expert from a novice. Take a lesson from the Muay Thai fighters and just go ballistic with basics.
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Angus
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Location: Australia
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Yeah, i agree Ken... u know i do, we've had this discussion about a gazillion times on the old board... hehe..
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thaiboxerken
Black Belt
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Location: Portland, Oregon
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Yep, but the karate kids need enlightenment.
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Karateka
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Joined: 22 Jun 2001
Posts: 786
Location: North Vancouver, Canada
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Kicks have an amazing effect upon an opponent. It can either stop them, or DROP THEM. I have used my kick in situations just to stop the guy dead in his tracks. I say, use any technique you can. In the dojo there are rules, in a tournament there are rules; in real life, there are no rules.
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on the post.
