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EnergyBoxer
White Belt

Joined: 26 Jan 2003
Posts: 24
Styles: Wing Chun, JKD, Dan Zan Ryu/ Brazilian Jujitsu, Kali, Chinese Hawaiian Kempo,Tai Chi, F.M.A. ,.........
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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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In my experience, with or without the clinch, the knees get the job done. The clinch is mainly a defensive tech. Knees and elbows follow cuz thats the range your at. But in a street fight, while BOTH of his hands are clinched around your neck you just have to go to his eyes or groin with your two free hands, hopefully you beat the knee. _________________ Kai Sai Wing Chun Kung Fu, JKD, Brazilian/Dan Zan Ryu Jujitsu, Chinese Hawiian Kempo, Pressure Point/Nerve/Cavity striking, and Tai Chi. |
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jiu-jitsu fighter
Brown Belt

Joined: 02 Jan 2003
Posts: 606
Styles: praying mantis, ninjutsu, BJJ,Blauer
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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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if you know how to use the clinch great, if you don't and you get there your in trouble, but im pretty sure most martial arts do clinch training or in other words close quarter combatives _________________ "When we go to the ground,you are in my world, the ground is the ocean, I am the shark,
and most people don't even know how to swim" |
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Venezolano
Green Belt

Joined: 19 Sep 2002
Posts: 357
Location: Venezuela
Styles: Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, TKD, Karate.
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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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I definately would use a clinch, i can give my opponent strikes with my knees, clinch is very important _________________ Valencia - Venezuela. |
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Karateka_latino
Black Belt

Joined: 21 Jun 2001
Posts: 1295
Location: Panama city, Panama
Styles: Goju-Ryu & Shotokan Karate do; Shaolin Kung Fu. Previous training in Muay Thai, J.K.D., Tai Chi & Taekwondo(wtf)
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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh the Clinch... Very important to learn how to fight in the clinch.. a person how knows how to elbow and knee on the clinch is very dangerous.. not to mention the set up for Takedown and throws. |
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delta1
Black Belt

Joined: 17 Feb 2003
Posts: 1780
Location: North Central Washington
Styles: It's ALL Kenpo! Bring it back to base!
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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2003 10:06 am Post subject: |
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I like to get in close, but I avoid tieing up my weapons in a clinch. In close weapons are awesome; knees, elbows, ridge hnads, forearms, insteps, head... everything is a weapon in close, including your stance.
Knee strikes are effective, and the groin and abdomen are obvious targets. But don't forget about attacking his base. A god hard knee strike to his quadricep can seriously compromise his foundation. If you have a good leg check in place, it is sometimes possible to roll up your stance and buckle his knee. |
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Stold
Orange Belt

Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Posts: 163
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Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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| So far, every person that isn't twice my size who has attempted to knee me has been hip thrown to the ground and mounted. ^______^ |
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Ali
Blue Belt

Joined: 31 Dec 2002
Posts: 262
Location: Hong Kong, China
Styles: Muay Thai, Yiquan
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Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 8:42 pm Post subject: ! |
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Knee from Clinch.
If doing sparring under Sanda rule,
I would sweep other' leg if control
by opponent' neck wrestling.
I would probably block the knee
with both hands and take the
chance to sweep his balancing leg.
Of course, my forearm can bear
only 2 to 3 knee even I do
some Wing Chun to strengthen them.
Besides competition, I usually would not
do that. Too dangerous.
From sparring with my friend,
they have their way to tackle
neck wrestling and then body slam.
He is doing Baji Fist.
If in real fight, I would prefer a combo
of Thai low kick to Knee kick without clinch.
Step back and keep puching. _________________ Darkness grants me pair of dark black eye,
Yet I determine to look for Brightness |
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fskarateoz
White Belt

Joined: 28 Feb 2003
Posts: 8
Location: Mystical Land of Oz
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 6:01 am Post subject: gotta watch the prize... |
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I wouldn't clinch for the groin factor... Knee yes, but not a silly clinch like u see in Thai fights. Say you were coming in off a jab and faked a cross to his face, grabbing him somewhere n then driving a knee into his stomach (just as easy)... he's bent over so now you would put a downward elbow into the back of his head to drop him... If u somehow get into a clinch situation you should go side-on and use a leg-roll, or reverse hip-throw to get him on the ground and either stomp him or mount and pummel... much much MUCH better than clinching.
fskarateoz  _________________ I'm a pretty straight forward guy, and people often tell me that i remind them of someone they once met... Although not necessarily face to face... |
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MuayThai Fighter
Blue Belt

Joined: 15 Feb 2003
Posts: 303
Location: Vancouver,BC
Styles: MuayThai,Submission Wrestling,Pankration,Karate
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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| i have nothing against kneeing in a clinch if its best for the situation but i prefer shin's and elbows. if your clinched, sometimes its best to try to control your opponents head. |
I'm the same way,I also don't have a problem with clinching,but I'd also rather use my elbows if that close to the person. |
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MuayThai Fighter
Blue Belt

Joined: 15 Feb 2003
Posts: 303
Location: Vancouver,BC
Styles: MuayThai,Submission Wrestling,Pankration,Karate
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Well since Thai fighters do clinching and knees,I would use it if the situation calls for it,however I'd rather be able to keep my opponent at distance then have to get that close.In a real situation,I'd rather take his knees out or at least sweep his feet.
Of course this isn't always possible,so at times I'd probably do jabs,right cross,and if person throws a kick avoid it and then shoot in to get the clinch and start using knees or shoot in and flip him to ground and continue to wrestle from there.
Grabbing a shirt in a fight is stupid,what if the shirt rips?Then he can get a hold of you.I'd rather grab the actual person then the shirt on him.Besides if you grab the person when in close quarters,you have better control of the situation,then if you grab any piece of clothing.
If I want to use his clothing to fight then I'd only use his shirt to pull over his head so he can't see what is coming,but will definitely feel it.From there I could knee,upper cut,choke etc. |
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