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lupus yonderboy
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bushido_man96
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Has Kyokushin decided to start allowing punches to the head now? I had heard that it was being considered, but I didn't know if it was the case now.
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NightOwl
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Originally it was, but people started loosing teeth, breaking hands, and getting really hurt because using gloves was seen as 'too unrealistic' (which I think is a bit...insane). Some schools do allow it though, and the transitioning from punching to the chest to the head isn't too hard to do. I don't know if head contact is a recent trend or not though. Kicks are allowed to the head however, so it is always good to keep a fairly high guard.
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bushido_man96
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I always kind of thought that the Kyokushin style of sparring was a rougher form of Olympic TKD sparring. Same target areas, no hands to the head; gives it kind of the same feel.
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NightOwl
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:26 am Post subject: |
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Sort of, however it puts a lot of emphasis on always going full contact/ more or less non point sparring. also no padding....however the target areas are the same
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bushido_man96
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:55 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, same targets, less protection. "Fuller" contact, I guess you could say.
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Dobbersky
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Joined: 19 Jul 2006
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Location: Manchester United Kingdom
Styles: Koku Tora Ryu Karate Do, Wado Ryu
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Lupus-San
I am not a Kyokushin fighter but I am an Ashihara Fighter, this is a Offshot and uses similar techniques to the face etc, If you You Tube the Sabaki Challenge.
Ashihara O Sensei was trained by Oyama O Sensei himself.
The main diferences are the kata or Forms.
Note there are many off-shots of Kyokushin and they can all be found on the Web I would add links but I don't think I am allowed to add them
Osu
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NightOwl
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There's another offshoot school called enshin or something close to that- kyokushin is one of the less organized versions of karate.
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bushido_man96
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I have heard of Enshin as well as Ashihara. Thanks for the info, Dobbersky. I do know that all 3 are known for their knockdown Karate tourneys.
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ying&yang
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| Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:40 am Post subject: |
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Its is common. I think that the punches to the face should be allowed and to stay around , nothing like a good full contact spar.
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on the post.
