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mantis.style
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Interesting that you mention tiger elements. Someone once showed me their dummy form from the Pan Nam school and there are some interesting non HK school type moves in there that seemed more like some of the older dragon and/or eagle claw styles. In fact, when we started to trade moves, we found a lot of similarity between what he does and certain white crane and certain (southern) mantis style movements. One over-riding similarity is that things are done more or less how they are performed in the forms which makes comparing them a lot easier. Your profile says you are based in London. I'm currently in the London area but only for the next two months, then I'm out of the country for a bit. If you're interested, I'm always up for a friendly crossing of hands. PM if you want to.
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RealWingChunKuen
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Joined: 20 May 2007
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Location: London, UK
Styles: Wing Chun (Mainland chinese lineage).
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| Interesting that you mention tiger elements. Someone once showed me their dummy form from the Pan Nam school and there are some interesting non HK school type moves in there that seemed more like some of the older dragon and/or eagle claw styles. In fact, when we started to trade moves, we found a lot of similarity between what he does and certain white crane and certain (southern) mantis style movements. One over-riding similarity is that things are done more or less how they are performed in the forms which makes comparing them a lot easier. Your profile says you are based in London. I'm currently in the London area but only for the next two months, then I'm out of the country for a bit. If you're interested, I'm always up for a friendly crossing of hands. PM if you want to. |
Yes, Wing Chun is a much richer art than many people imagine it to be. It is not the best kung fu style out there, but is not too far from the top, if practiced to its full potential.
Unfortunately, many of the schools that I have come across do not do the art of Wing Chun any justice. Some of them (sifus/schools), go even further and almost criminally, trim the art even more, just to make it "money making friendly". And, to add insult to injury they call their version of Wing Chun more "street effective" or "practical" than Classical Wing Chun.
These are "sifus" that would not know Classical Wing Chun if it fell on them.
About meeting up. First of all I am at mid Chum Kiu level, so I wont be able to show you the Tiger elements nor the ground fighting,etc. Secondly, I make it a rule not to meet people through the internet. That is not to say that a friendly crossing of hands with a fellow kung fu practitioner well versed in Wing Chun and currently practicing the (much respected by me) Southern Praying Mantis, is not tempting. Sorry.
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Justin Treadaway
Yellow Belt
Joined: 24 May 2007
Posts: 82
Location: New Albany, Mississippi
Styles: CURRENT: Sil Lum Kungfu (Mainland chinese lineage), Modern Arnis, Incorperating (Tai Tzu Chang Chuan, Chin-na, Iga-Ryu). PAST: Isshinryu karate
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I am very pleased with my school as well. Our style of kung fu has the 5 animals, mantis, monkey, and a few others at higher rank. I really like the mantis stuff. I love the locking and take downs of it. You really make your opponent pay for swinging at you  .
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RealWingChunKuen
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Location: London, UK
Styles: Wing Chun (Mainland chinese lineage).
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| Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Justin Treadaway wrote: |
| I am very pleased with my school as well. Our style of kung fu has the 5 animals, mantis, monkey, and a few others at higher rank. I really like the mantis stuff. I love the locking and take downs of it. You really make your opponent pay for swinging at you . |
Is your Mantis sounds like it is of the northern branch. Is it?
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Justin Treadaway
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mantis.style
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Tong Long = mantis
You've just kinda said: Mantis Southern Mantis.
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Justin Treadaway
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The form is called tong long, but it is southern mantis. Sorry, I didn't set up the sentence structure correct . I knew tong long meant mantis.
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RealWingChunKuen
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That is interesting. I have never heard of Southern Mantis being taught in combination with other animals in 5 animals kung fu.
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mantis.style
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There's a guy in HK with a school Five Animal System that isn't the traditional Five. The core principles are still the same, just that the movements are named slightly differently.
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RealWingChunKuen
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| There's a guy in HK with a school Five Animal System that isn't the traditional Five. The core principles are still the same, just that the movements are named slightly differently. |
Is the Mantis one of the animales in his system?
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on the post.
