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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
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Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo,Hapkido, SCA Combat, and I research Medieval Combat
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| Aces Red wrote: |
I think bouncers get these cards sometimes. Not sure though, I'm just going by my friend's father's word.  I'm not even sure if they are real? |
A card that you show someone before thumping them, so that you aren't held liable for their butt-whooping? Am I understanding your statement correctly? 
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Montana
Orange Belt
Joined: 18 Apr 2007
Posts: 183
Location: Formerly Montana, now Spokane, WA
Styles: Shorin Ryu Matsumura Kenpo & Kobudo
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| Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:20 am Post subject: |
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| bushido_man96 wrote: |
| Aces Red wrote: |
| I think bouncers get these cards sometimes. Not sure though, I'm just going by my friend's father's word. I'm not even sure if they are real? |
A card that you show someone before thumping them, so that you aren't held liable for their butt-whooping? Am I understanding your statement correctly? |
 I think the idea is that while they're reading the card and starting to laugh hysterically over it, you nail them! 
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Kajukenbopr
Pre-Black Belt
Joined: 18 Jun 2005
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Styles: Kajukenbo - Emperado Method
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Wing chun, traditional tkd, and aikijujitsu.I dont know what the name would be, but, it woud consist on the fast hands of wing chun,fast kicks of tkd and the throws and locks of aikijujitsu.
i train in kajukenbo self defense- its a pretty complete style as it is.
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mantis.style
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I'm not sure I'm happy with the fact that you only mention fast hands with wing chun. I'm also confused by the choice of "traditional" TKD. After all, isn't traditional tkd, shotokan?
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Kajukenbopr
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Styles: Kajukenbo - Emperado Method
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yes, u are right, wing chun has a lot more material, not just fast hands.
I said what came off the top of my head, not give a detailed description of the style.
my apologies if i offended u
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Azmyth
Orange Belt
Joined: 30 Aug 2003
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Location: Arabi Ga
Styles: ITF Tae Kwon Do, Jiu Jitsu, American Kenpo, Modern Arnis
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:27 am Post subject: |
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mantis.style
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Kajukenbopr wrote: |
yes, u are right, wing chun has a lot more material, not just fast hands.
I said what came off the top of my head, not give a detailed description of the style.
my apologies if i offended u |
I'm not offended. If anything, to me, the less people know about wing chun, the better for me. I have to say though that I find this all a bit fascinating. As someone who has spent more than a few years in this, I would say that Wing Chun will not work with TKD - too many structural differences. I would also say that Wing Chun doesn't need Aikijujutsu. Chin-Na can be used freely from most aspects of wing chun, especially at secondary trapping stages and the way Wing Chun works, you don't need to go to the ground. Of course, it is always good to cover more bases but you only mention locks and throws which wing chun has enough of its own, even without taking specialised Chin-Na classes.
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bushido_man96
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Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo,Hapkido, SCA Combat, and I research Medieval Combat
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| I'm also confused by the choice of "traditional" TKD. After all, isn't traditional tkd, shotokan? |
TKD does have its roots in Shotokan, yes. However, I am sure that many Shotokan stylists would be able to tell you that the two are different enough. Just like many off-branches of Karate, being similar but different.
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Kajukenbopr
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| Kajukenbopr wrote: |
yes, u are right, wing chun has a lot more material, not just fast hands.
I said what came off the top of my head, not give a detailed description of the style.
my apologies if i offended u |
I'm not offended. If anything, to me, the less people know about wing chun, the better for me. I have to say though that I find this all a bit fascinating. As someone who has spent more than a few years in this, I would say that Wing Chun will not work with TKD - too many structural differences. I would also say that Wing Chun doesn't need Aikijujutsu. Chin-Na can be used freely from most aspects of wing chun, especially at secondary trapping stages and the way Wing Chun works, you don't need to go to the ground. Of course, it is always good to cover more bases but you only mention locks and throws which wing chun has enough of its own, even without taking specialised Chin-Na classes. |
very true. very few people realize the complexity of chinese martial arts, in this case, wing chun.
still, it would be hard to find a teacher who was so thorough where I live. And with the tkd kicks, i know the structural differences, but maybe some concepts could be applied both ways to make some kicks work- just to spice it up 
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nine_weapons
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Styles: muay thai, judo, bjj
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| mantis.style wrote: |
| I'm not sure I'm happy with the fact that you only mention fast hands with wing chun. I'm also confused by the choice of "traditional" TKD. After all, isn't traditional tkd, shotokan? |
I think "traditional" tkd may be a misnomer. TKD didn't come about until like 1960 due to political disputes about it's forerunner tang soo do. tang soo do is pretty much a korean offshoot of shotokan. they have some of the same kata, but they have different ones as well. However, the techniques are pretty much the exact same, at least from what I've seen and experienced (my first style was TSD.) koreans thought that TSD was "too japanese", thus another, "more korean" art was created - tkd. |
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on the post.
