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Alucard
White Belt

Joined: 08 Oct 2005
Posts: 9
Styles: Qigong
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:29 pm Post subject: Music and martial arts. |
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I want to know, how much does Music and Martial arts really go together. And is mastering both necessary? I have recently become fond of the Guqin. It's like the guitar in many ways but without frets. Unfortunately, the prices of the Guqin are astronomical. Recently I have been thinking about taking a Taijiquan class, but I'm without a single penny. If anyone knows a place where I could possibly get a working Guqin or you have any input about Music and Martial Arts, please leave a comment. Thank you. _________________ "The First step to knowing everything, is to first acknowledge that you know nothing." |
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Takezo
Yellow Belt

Joined: 09 Nov 2005
Posts: 30
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Rytham helps you in your martial arts. But understand that sometimes you need to loose rytham in order to be effective in your kumite. |
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sdargie
Orange Belt


Joined: 06 Jul 2005
Posts: 129
Location: Allston, MA
Styles: Hapchidado
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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Necessary for what?
I've found that by staying healthy and clear headed with martial arts, my musical ability with composing/arranging/performing/directing/etc is freer and richer. I use musical terminology to express martial arts ideas sometimes because everyone in our dojo are musicians. However, practicing a phrygian scale in thirds doesn't make my tiger strikes better and vice versa. _________________ O Sensei said that everyone has a defined sphere of strength and if you can get them outside that sphere then their strength will disappear. I say, EXPAND YOUR SPHERE! |
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Traditional-Fist
Green Belt

Joined: 03 Apr 2005
Posts: 359
Styles: Traditional Wing Chun
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Mas. Oyama believed that musicality and having good rhythm helped ones advancement in karate. _________________ Use your time on an art that is worthwhile and not on a dozen irrelevant "ways". |
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back_fist
Yellow Belt


Joined: 19 Aug 2004
Posts: 30
Styles: Hung Gar
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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I dont think they are really necessary in relation to one another. However, the guqin is an amazing instrument. I too would love to have the chance to learn to play one. _________________ To be worn out is to be renewed.
-Lao Tzu |
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Sohan
Black Belt


Joined: 08 Apr 2006
Posts: 1986
Location: Atlanta
Styles: Shorin Ryu Karate-Do, Muay Thai, Shudokan Karate-Do, Boxing, BJJ, Hung Gar Gung Fu
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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When I began Shorin-ryu, my sensei and I found we had a shared interest in music. We both play guitar and (attempt to) sing. At every dojo party we usually perform with some other musicians from our dojo who are of much better caliber than we are and do renditions of popular classics.
It has been something very enriching to share with my sensei outside of karate. Lyrically challenged or not, it is an added dimension to our relationship as teacher and student.
Respectfully,
Sohan _________________ "If I cannot become one of extraordinary accomplishment, I will not walk the earth." Zen Master Nakahara Nantenbo
"A man who has attained mastery of an art reveals it in his every action." Samuarai maxim
"Knowing others is wisdom; knowing yourself is Enlightenment." Lao-Tzu |
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ebff
Yellow Belt

Joined: 03 Apr 2006
Posts: 54
Location: London/Cambridge, UK
Styles: Sabre, a tiny bit of Wing Chun, Muay Thai
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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I've performed, learnt and taught for more than 13 years now and upon hearing aikidoka's accounts of "blending" in the art... I've found exactly the same to apply in music. Except it's something you develop with a lot of experience, with a group where everybody is very good - you don't just play anymore, you blend your sound within the group's sound. The result can be heard live if you go and listen to orchestras like the London Symphony Orchestra or the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra who have brought this technique to an insane level - they play all so well in tune that if a clarinet and a flute (for example) are playing together even professional musicians can't tell them apart.
I think a lot of this applies to martial arts. I'm taking the path music => martial arts, but you can most certainly take it the other way round. But don't learn the violin or piano whatever you do, there's far too many out there! |
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sdargie
Orange Belt


Joined: 06 Jul 2005
Posts: 129
Location: Allston, MA
Styles: Hapchidado
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Read "Effortless Mastery" by Kenny Werner if you want to see some aikido philosophy applied to music. I don't know if Mr. Werner is an aikidoka but he does make mention to parallels he has noticed in some martial arts. _________________ O Sensei said that everyone has a defined sphere of strength and if you can get them outside that sphere then their strength will disappear. I say, EXPAND YOUR SPHERE! |
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Skeptic 2004
Orange Belt

Joined: 27 Jan 2005
Posts: 214
Location: Okinawa
Styles: Shorin-Ryu
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Chibana Choshin used to play sanshin (lit. "three strings"), a three stringed Okinawan version of the Japanese shamisen. While I've recently found out that a lot of Okinawans play sanshin, Chibana used to play it to maintain dexterity in his fingers. He punched makiwara all the time, and if not for playing sanshin, he would have lost dexterity in his fingers. _________________ Do you know who Chosin Chibana is...?
The Chibana Project:
http://chibanaproject.blogspot.com |
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Anbu Alex
Green Belt


Joined: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 443
Location: From the villiage hidden in the broo-lyn
Styles: Bujinkan Taijutsu
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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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Training alone its awsome but in the dojo its kinda hard when your sensei is trying to correct you and u cant hear him guess that teaches u to listen not hear _________________ White belt for life
"Destroy the enemies power but leave his life" |
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