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Z@CH
Yellow Belt
Joined: 05 Aug 2007
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Location: wdm, ia
Styles: previously TKD, now Kempo
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 Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject: natural ability |
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i guess ive been born with a natural ability to ground grapple, i can control my neighbor pretty well and hes a purple belt, i cant afford to start training tho, is there anything i can do at home to get better?
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bushido_man96
KF Sensei
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 14618
Location: Hays, KS
Styles: Taekwondo, Combat Hapkido, Aikido, and I research Medieval Combat
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If you have a friend that you are grappling with that is ranked in BJJ or has some Wrestling experience, then I would just train with them. Look around on books and websites for some moves to practice, and work to employ them. That is what I would do.
Here is a website I was recently introduced to that may help: http://submissions101.com/
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ps1
Black Belt
Joined: 09 Nov 2004
Posts: 1734
Location: NE Ohio
Styles: Chuan Fa, Shotokan, JJJ, BJJ
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| Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| bushido_man96 wrote: |
| If you have a friend that you are grappling with that is ranked in BJJ or has some Wrestling experience, then I would just train with them. |
This is the best way to get better. Training with him will take that natural ability and refine it. Remember, just because you can handle somebody doesn't mean they can't teach you or that you can't learn from them. You have a wealth of information in the purple belt next door.
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AikiGuy
Orange Belt
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Posts: 171
Location: Ohio
Styles: . Aikijutsu, . Goshin Jutsu Karate
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| Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:48 am Post subject: Re: natural ability |
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| Z@CH wrote: |
| i guess ive been born with a natural ability to ground grapple, i can control my neighbor pretty well and hes a purple belt, i cant afford to start training tho, is there anything i can do at home to get better? |
You are already doing it. As the others have said, practicing with your neighbor is one of the best things you can do other than taking a class. What style does your neighbor do? Is it a grappling art? What you two can get from each other depends a lot on how similar your styles are.
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PSBN Doug
KF VIP
Joined: 04 Nov 2001
Posts: 3758
Location: Houston, TX
Styles: Kuk Sool Won
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I was also amazed at all the resources on Wikipedia. I looked up the name of the hold or submission, and there'd be links to videos, links to associated moves with videos for them...
It helped a lot for me in my attempts to get a little more proficient in ground grappling. Then I tried it out in class when we did a little rolling once in a while.
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Z@CH
Yellow Belt
Joined: 05 Aug 2007
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Location: wdm, ia
Styles: previously TKD, now Kempo
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| Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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yeah hes in BJJ, thanks guys
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Rainbow_Warrior
Blue Belt
Joined: 01 Oct 2006
Posts: 349
Styles: Now : MMA/luta livre/Thai , before :Kung fu,kick boxing , boxing, amateur wrestling
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| Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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can control my neighbor pretty well and hes a purple belt, i cant afford to start training tho, is there anything i can do at home to get better?
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You can 创control 创 a BJJ purple belt with no previus training ? It soundS VERY weird. A purple belt in BJJ means 4 years of training or more.
1) Is the guya REAL BJJ purple belt ?
2)Does he weight 100 lbs and you 200 lbs ?
3)Is that guy injured?
4) If all above were negative...You are a prodigy , indeed.
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ps1
Black Belt
Joined: 09 Nov 2004
Posts: 1734
Location: NE Ohio
Styles: Chuan Fa, Shotokan, JJJ, BJJ
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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can control my neighbor pretty well and hes a purple belt, i cant afford to start training tho, is there anything i can do at home to get better?
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You can 创control 创 a BJJ purple belt with no previus training ? It soundS VERY weird. A purple belt in BJJ means 4 years of training or more.
1) Is the guya REAL BJJ purple belt ?
2)Does he weight 100 lbs and you 200 lbs ?
3)Is that guy injured?
4) If all above were negative...You are a prodigy , indeed. |
It could also simply be that the purple belt is letting him work.
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Rainbow_Warrior
Blue Belt
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Styles: Now : MMA/luta livre/Thai , before :Kung fu,kick boxing , boxing, amateur wrestling
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Yes ! That sounds good . I dont know what does 创control 创 mean.
Are you talking about acquiring a dominant position ?
Do you mean that you are submiting the purple belt ?
Is very dificult ( near impossible) for any non grappler to stay in a dominant position against a purple belt , unless the begginer were 2x heavier and stronger.
When I grapple against purple belts ( luta livre has a very similar grading.....a purple belt is almost the same ) , some days they let me work - and I 创 control 创 them and take them down - but just because they are figthing soft. When they do their best...I cant control them , I just survive till I get submited.
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ravenzoom
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Location: Quebec, Canada
Styles: BJJ
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| I also take semi-private classes with a purple belt who ways about 155 and I weigh 225, he submits me whenever he wants. |
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